Could Christ Have Had A Wife Or Child While On Earth?

[Resurrexi]

Could Christ have had a wife and/or child while on earth? He of course, as the Church offocially teaches, did not, but could He have?

Edited December 30, 2006 by StThomasMore

[homeschoolmom]

How would a wife and child have helped him with his mission?

[Resurrexi]

It wouldn't have, but how would being trained to be a carpenter have helped Him with His mission?

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1151971' date='Dec 30 2006, 01:00 AM']
It wouldn't have, but how would being trained to be a carpenter have helped Him with His mission?
[/quote]
It helped him support his mother....

[heavenseeker]

it made him a simple man

[infinitelord1]

im sure he could have since he was fully human.

[Groo the Wanderer]

I said 'could have' simply because He is God and God can do anything He wants :

That said, Jesus also COULD have, during His time on Earth, invented Velcro. started a basketball team, opened a fitness center, etc....but he didn't.

The question is a little silly, methinks :

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1152138' date='Dec 30 2006, 11:55 AM']
I said 'could have' simply because He is God and God can do anything He wants :

That said, Jesus also COULD have, during His time on Earth, invented Velcro. started a basketball team, opened a fitness center, etc....but he didn't.

The question is a little silly, methinks :
[/quote]
That's sort of my take too. What is more interesting to me is the questions surrounding why G-d, praise be His Name, chose to come as He did.

[Church Punk]

Here is a good question, If Christ has a wife and/ or a child, where were they at the Curcifixtion, why werent they there at the foot of the Cross. Further, why did Jesus say Mother, behold your son and Desciple behold your Mother, and from that day for John took her into his home. Where was his wife and child during all this if he had one? It is illogial to assume he had a wife and child. The only logical explaination is that he was single.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1152138' date='Dec 30 2006, 10:55 AM']

That said, Jesus also COULD have, during His time on Earth, invented Velcro. started a basketball team, opened a fitness center, etc....but he didn't.
[/quote]
I thought he did... Wasn't John a starting center for the Galilee Gospelspreaders?

[White Knight]

There was no way he could have been married and had a child, it wasn't the reason he came to this earth, marriage and a child would have been a distraction, and not useful. Jesus came to this Earth with the mission to save mankind of their sins.

[Resurrexi]

[quote]Here is a good question, If Christ has a wife and/ or a child, where were they at the Curcifixtion, why werent they there at the foot of the Cross. Further, why did Jesus say Mother, behold your son and Desciple behold your Mother, and from that day for John took her into his home. Where was his wife and child during all this if he had one? It is illogial to assume he had a wife and child. The only logical explaination is that he was single.[/quote]

He didn't.... Holy Scripture are clear that He didn't for they name all His other close relatives such as His Immaculate Mother and His foster-father and His second and third cousins (Elisabeth and John the Baptist) and His aunt (Mary of Cleophas) and His first cousins (James, Joseph, Simon and Jude), and of course the reasons you have mentioned. The question of this poll was could He have.

I made this poll thinking it's in the realm of theological speculation.

Edited December 30, 2006 by StThomasMore

[dairygirl4u2c]

God can't choose to break His own rules. If you over think that too much, remember the "can god make a rock so big even he can't lift it?" answer. which needs elaborated on. but if you are familiar with the philosophy behind this. if you can say how jesus having kids is like god lifting rocks or whathave you, you may be on to something.

But I essentially agree with Laudate etc.

[VeniteAdoremus]

I'd say He couldn't, because marriage is totally exclusive. How could Jerusalem be the bride of the Lamb if He's already married? And that's not even touching on becoming "one of body and mind" with an aspect of the Trinity... how a human girl would manage that, I don't know.

Maybe my thinking is too simplistic, but really, I don't think He could.

[Socrates]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1152307' date='Dec 30 2006, 04:45 PM']
He didn't.... Holy Scripture are clear that He didn't for they name all His other close relatives such as His Immaculate Mother and His foster-father and His second and third cousins (Elisabeth and John the Baptist) and His aunt (Mary of Cleophas) and His first cousins (James, Joseph, Simon and Jude), and of course the reasons you have mentioned. The question of this poll was could He have.

I made this poll thinking it's in the realm of theological speculation.
[/quote]
It's a little hard to see the point of this poll, since you agree He didn't.

If you mean "was it physically possible?" or something similar, of course. Jesus Christ, being True Man as well as True God, could have married and begat children, had He so chosen.
However, this was not part of His Divine Plan of Salvation, and in His Infinite Wisdom, He saw that it would be best not to leave blood descendents (contrary to Dan Brown, et al).

Christ (theoretically) [i]could have[/i] done many things (including defeating the Romans and making Himself a worldy King) which He did not. We should just trust in God's Infinite Wisdom.

[bmb144]

Ok, the answer is yes. Its more than could be, and closer to more than likely.

I've spent 5 years researching this area and while the evidence is still shakey, there is a couple of points that need to be thought about.

1st- To read from the scroll of law as Jesus did, a man needed to be a Rabbi and even then Rabbi's needed to be married, as they do now.

2nd- Mary Magdalene....there is enough non-canon evidence that shows that her and Jesus' relationship "may have" been more than friendship/teacher.

Without causing a flame war I would recommend for those interested to use a search engine and look under Mary Magdalene and see for yourself.

Belinda

[Resurrexi]

[quote]Ok, the answer is yes. Its more than could be, and closer to more than likely.

I've spent 5 years researching this area and while the evidence is still shakey, there is a couple of points that need to be thought about.

1st- To read from the scroll of law as Jesus did, a man needed to be a Rabbi and even then Rabbi's needed to be married, as they do now.

2nd- Mary Magdalene....there is enough non-canon evidence that shows that her and Jesus' relationship "may have" been more than friendship/teacher.

Without causing a flame war tomato.gif I would recommend for those interested to use a search engine and look under Mary Magdalene and see for yourself.

Belinda
[/quote]

One cannot compare the laws and practices of Rabbinical Judaism to the Religion of the Old Testament, which is fulfilled in the Holy Religion of the New Testament (i. e. Catholicism) and there is no historical evidence for your claim that rabbii (I think that's the plural of "rabbi") had to get married: St John the Baptist was not married. Moreover, even if that claim were true, I would refute it with the fact that the regulations of the Old Law such as Circumcision and Presentation applied not to the Divine Son of God or His Immaculate Mother: they were exempt.

Secondly, because St Mary Magdalen was a former whore, and would have been completely ridiculous for [i]anyone[/i], especially a priest, king or prophet, to marry her.

[quote name='St. John 12:3']3 Mary therefore took a pound of ointment of right spikenard, of great price, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.[/quote]
[quote name='Luke 7:37']37 And behold a woman that was in the city, a sinner, when she knew that he sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment;[/quote]

Most claims that Our God and Lord was wedded to the Holy Magdalen are dismissed by serious biblical scholars as ridiculous. Also, there were reasons that the apocryphal gospels were not included in the Canon of the Scriptures: they were not written very soon after the events contained therein and were therefore unreliable.

Edited January 1, 2007 by StThomasMore

[bmb144]

Firstly, the religion of the times that Jesus was subject to was Judaism.
Mother Mary under went the required purifications under the law, presented Jesus at the Temple aka living under that law! The scripture says so.

Secondly, it is well known that Rabbi needed to be married and still do! Any jewish man unmarried at 30 was a laughing stock! The role of the wife of a rabbi is well known to be a caring role for the women of the community, both then and now. Ask any orthodox follower and they will tell you the same.

St John's role was prophet not Rabbi and his links to the Essenes are well known in good biblical scholarship. So that holds no water.

St Mary Magdalene [b]WAS NEVER[/b] a whore and the church withdrew that claim many years ago. There have always been three Mary's and none of them were whores. I would suggest you check your information

The fact that you don't know that the church withdrew its claim on St Mary years ago when that is common knowledge makes me wonder....

Do me a favour prove it.....

Belinda (BTh early church history major and current student!)

[Hirsap]

Here is what I make of the poll question.

I say possibly not because

1) it is only in Marriage that one can lawfully engage in sexual relations, and the idea of Christ being married would seem problematic. Because since Christ is the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, his union can only be with God, for even while on Earth, He still had the Beatific Vision. We know that at the time we have that Vision of God, any marriage between man and woman is no longer there. (In fact, simply after death) Therefore Christ, in forever possessing this Vision, could not have been married.
* Certainly I am not disputing Christ being 'married' - in the more spiritual sense - with His Church, the idea which St. Paul alluded to when discussing husband/wife relations. Also the Communion of Saints, with the dead members of the Church not breaking their 'link' with other members. Just the idea of a marriage between man and woman is what could pose theological problems, and which it seems, possibly, must only be confined to this life, that is, a marital bond between man and woman.

2) The idea of Christ having a child itself seems rather strange. Christ is a Divine Person, and if this child's mother was a human person, what is this child? 'Half-divine'? Is that even possible, a half-divine being?

Edited January 1, 2007 by Hirsap

[catholicinsd]

Can you imagine what it would been like for his kids?

"My name is Franky, my daddy is Jesus and my God and Mary are my grandpa and grandma"