Jesus Is Catholic

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[quote name='journeyman' post='1166243' date='Jan 15 2007, 05:47 PM']
Well, why does it matter? I made a comment without authority, and you questioned the source. That was fair enough.

I know you said you read the cross references, but did you actually read them? To see what they said, or to see if they had a precise word you were looking for?

I pulled my DR (1948 imprimatur) and Acts 9:1 is "this way"
with footnote stating "this way: in Greek, "the Way," used for Christianity"

Acts 18:26 begins in verse 25, speaking of Apollos - says he had "been instructed in the Way of the Lord, and being fervent in spirit" . . . followed in verse 26 by "Priscilla and Aquila took him home and expounded the Way of God to him" more precisely.

Acts 19:9 . . . some were obstinate and refused to believe, speaking evil of the Way before the community . . .

Acts 19:23 . . . there arose no small commotion about the Way.

Acts 22:4 . . . And I persecuted this Way even to the death

Acts 24:14 . . . But this I admit to thee, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, so I serve the God of my fathers; . . .

Acts 24:22 . . . Felix, however, having precise information about the Way, adjourned the trial, . . .
to what is the reference to "the Way" or "this Way" (capitalized in the original) other than a reference to the early Church?
CMom has already addressed your question about the ECF/Didache
Now it is your turn . . . please prove your assertion - how was Christ a Catholic when the term was not in use during his life?
For extra credit, please explain to me the single ethnicity of Judaism - beginning with the distinction between the residents of Israel/Judah and Samaria - and then specifically addressing the conflicts between the Hellenistic Jews and the Palestinian Jews and how that was not due to an ethnic bias and distinction - extrapolating to the current day, if possible
Since we are now way off topic for the purpose Phatcatholic posted the query, perhaps your response should be in another thread??
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Well I pulled out my Baronius Press Psalsms and New Testament , published in 2005. Instead of an Imprimatur it says on the copyright page "The biblical text of the New Testament has been digitally reset so as faithfully to reproduce that of the 1899 edition of the Douay-Rheims Bible originally published under the Imprimatur of Cardinal Gibbons by the John Murphy Company, Baltimore, Maryland. The text for the Psalms is from the same edition, and has been freshly reset."

Acts 9:2 "... men and women of this way..." No footnote.
Acts 18:25 "...was instructed way of the Lord..." "way" uncapitalised.
Acts 18:26 "...expounded to him the way of the way of the Lord more..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 19:9 "...speaking evil of the way of the Lord..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 19:23 "...disturbance about the way of the Lord..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 22:4 "Who persecuted this way unto death..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 24:14 "...according to the way, which they call a heresy" "way" uncapitalised
Acts 24:22 "...having most certain knowledge of this way..." "way" uncapitalised

I would like to say that I don't think what you just quoted was the Challoner Douay-Rheims.

All these are merely descirptors of a path, a choice, a Church. It would be like me calling a house "the house." That would not be the name of the house, but a descriptor.

Saying Christ was not Catholic would be like saying Mohammed wasn't Mohommadan. Christ founded the Catholic Church and therefore was a Catholic. There is no proof that the Church was not called Catholic. Lack of proof in the Scripures does not make something not exist. For example, there isn't a great deal of proof of the Trinity from Scripture, but we believe in the Dogma of the Trinity because It has been given to us by Apostolic Tradition.

I'm not going to argue with you about the Jewish ethnicity. Christ was a decendant of Jacob/Israel by His Mother, and was therefore ethnically a Jew. Christ was by religion a Catholic, for he believed in all the Dogmata of the Catholic Church which He Revealed.

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[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1166520' date='Jan 16 2007, 12:57 AM']
Well I pulled out my Baronius Press Psalsms and New Testament , published in 2005. Instead of an Imprimatur it says on the copyright page "The biblical text of the New Testament has been digitally reset so as faithfully to reproduce that of the 1899 edition of the Douay-Rheims Bible originally published under the Imprimatur of Cardinal Gibbons by the John Murphy Company, Baltimore, Maryland. The text for the Psalms is from the same edition, and has been freshly reset."

Acts 9:2 "... men and women of this way..." No footnote.
Acts 18:25 "...was instructed way of the Lord..." "way" uncapitalised.
Acts 18:26 "...expounded to him the way of the way of the Lord more..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 19:9 "...speaking evil of the way of the Lord..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 19:23 "...disturbance about the way of the Lord..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 22:4 "Who persecuted this way unto death..." "way" uncapitalised
Acts 24:14 "...according to the way, which they call a heresy" "way" uncapitalised
Acts 24:22 "...having most certain knowledge of this way..." "way" uncapitalised

I would like to say that I don't think what you just quoted was the Challoner Douay-Rheims.

All these are merely descirptors of a path, a choice, a Church. It would be like me calling a house "the house." That would not be the name of the house, but a descriptor.

Saying Christ was not Catholic would be like saying Mohammed wasn't Mohommadan. Christ founded the Catholic Church and therefore was a Catholic. There is no proof that the Church was not called Catholic. Lack of proof in the Scripures does not make something not exist. For example, there isn't a great deal of proof of the Trinity from Scripture, but we believe in the Dogma of the Trinity because It has been given to us by Apostolic Tradition.

I'm not going to argue with you about the Jewish ethnicity. Christ was a decendant of Jacob/Israel by His Mother, and was therefore ethnically a Jew. Christ was by religion a Catholic, for he believed in all the Dogmata of the Catholic Church which He Revealed.
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There is no proof that it wasn't called" the way" as listed in previous posts, since as you pointed out not everything we believe is written in the Bible.
Jesus is a Jew, who founded a Church, later referred to as catholic. He is also God, but that is not the piont of the discussion.

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talk about a hijack.

is this what phatty wanted?

[cmotherofpirl]

Probably not. but when the cats away the little mice will play.
He can come back and put it on track anytime. :

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[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1166680' date='Jan 16 2007, 10:10 AM']talk about a hijack.

is this what phatty wanted?[/quote]

Back to topic..

Awesome paper. I am lovin Balthasar. let talk about this paper

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Its important to define the word "Catholic", which in direct definition means "universal" but as I'd mentioned before, before the great schism, the term wasn't just used for rome but for every other See/Rite/Jurisdiction/Etc.

Reza