God Is The Rock, Not Peter.

[jeffpugh]

Indeed. These words are coming from the one who said let you yes be yes and your no be no.

[NewReformation]

[quote name='thessalonian' post='1207702' date='Mar 4 2007, 09:57 AM']Tell me something budge.

Who is the foundation of the Church? Christ or Prophets and Apostles? (Hint: both/and 1 Cor 3:11, Eph 2:20)
Who is the "light of the world"? Christ, or Christians? (Hint: both/and, see John's gospel)

John 8

12: Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world; he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Matt 5
14: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid.
Do these passages contradict budge?

Who is the ROCK from which the Jews were hewn in Isiaha 51

1: "Hearken to me, you who pursue deliverance, you who seek the LORD; [b]look to the rock from which you were hewn[/b], and to the quarry from which you were digged.
2: [b]Look to Abraham your father and to Sarah who bore you[/b]; for when he was but one I called him, and I blessed him and made him many.

What? Abraham can be called rock but Peter can't be. Rocks are infinite God or something such that a man cannot be called a rock. Seems like your making rocks in to graven images of God budge. To understand the bible you reconcile things. Not deny things in order to suit preconcieved notions. All your proving budge is that your pitting the Bible against itself and ignoring plain English constructs, so that you can have your own personal doctrines. Sad, very sad. Now go to the bathroom and wash that egg off your face. I know you can't see it but it is there. [/quote]

The Apostles form the foundation, but who is the chief Cornerstone? Without that cornerstone, there is no foundation. That one single stone or rock is what is needed.

[thessalonian]

From the Catechism:

756 "Often, too, the Church is called the building of God. The Lord compared himself to the stone which the builders rejected, but which[b] was made into the corner-stone. On this foundation the Church is built by the apostles and from [/b]it the Church receives solidity and unity.


So it seems we agree Christ is the cornerstone, so you point is? How does this prevent Peter from being the rock?

[Seven77]

God IS the ROCK.

Jesus empowers Peter with a share in His "rockness"... Peter is the Rock IN Christ Jesus who strengthens him.

[Mr.Cat]

Confusion between the Rock that the Church is founded and the Cornerstone I suppose could be described between the foundation and the first block that is laid into place, but rather I think that calling our Blessed Lord the chief cornerstone is referring to the fact that He is the true founder of the Church.