Protestant Bookstore's And The Truth.

[thessalonian]

I think about this from time to time. We talk about the 33,000 denominations. What about books stores. Protestant vs. Catholic. I can go in to a Catholic bookstrore and find it very difficult to find contradictions between the books. Yet you go to a protestant bookstore that is usually 10 times larger and you find Hank Hanagraph, who denies pre-trib rapture, next to Tim Lahaye's Left Behind series. TD Jakes next to John MacArthur. It's nutz.

[Budge]

Most of them carry Catholic books too.

Right in the middle of my local one, huge Catholic section.

You find very little fundamentalist books, I have yet to even find a decent Dave Hunt book on any subject or good Bible prophecy books in a regular Christian bookstore.

[thessalonian]

[quote name='Budge' post='1216371' date='Mar 20 2007, 09:29 AM']Most of them carry Catholic books too.

Right in the middle of my local one, huge Catholic section.

You find very little fundamentalist books, I have yet to even find a decent Dave Hunt book on any subject or good Bible prophecy books in a regular Christian bookstore.[/quote]

Way to deflect the topic and not deal with the issue it speaks to.
You mean Dave Hunt who demonizes everyone's views but his own. That Dave Hunt. I found him in a protestant bookstore one time and talked to the management and they got rid of him.

[Sojourner]

I don't find it surprising in the least that you would see the fracturing of the Protestant church reflected in Protestant bookstores.

I haven't gone into any bookstore for a long time, Protestant or Catholic ... I find that most stores don't carry the books I really want, and that it's better to start online.

[Budge]

[quote]I found him in a protestant bookstore one time and talked to the management and they got rid of him. smile.gif[/quote]

So you got some books banned from ADULTS to read.

Nice way to work there, when disagree with something get it banned,

Thats not exactly freedom loving.

[thessalonian]

[quote name='Budge' post='1216429' date='Mar 20 2007, 10:52 AM']So you got some books banned from ADULTS to read.

Nice way to work there, when disagree with something get it banned,

Thats not exactly freedom loving.[/quote]

I merely told the owner what the book was and they chose not to put it on their shelves. I didn't tell them to take it off in any sort of a demanding way. They don't have to put things on their shelves. They have the right to take things off. That's freedom as well isn't it or should they be forced to put porn magazines in there bookstores as well. After all it is adults were are talking about. Once again budge, your arguements are just that, arguing. No real substance. Just opposing the Catholic Church (truth) with every breath you have. That won't go good at judgement I suspect.

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='thessalonian' post='1216370' date='Mar 20 2007, 07:21 AM']I think about this from time to time. We talk about the 33,000 denominations. What about books stores. Protestant vs. Catholic. I can go in to a Catholic bookstrore and find it very difficult to find contradictions between the books. Yet you go to a protestant bookstore that is usually 10 times larger and you find Hank Hanagraph, who denies pre-trib rapture, next to Tim Lahaye's Left Behind series. TD Jakes next to John MacArthur. It's nutz.[/quote]

You'd be surprised thou, most Christian book stores, such as "Family Christian Book Store", are beginning to subscribe to a single particular theology and doctrine. It used to be that Hand Hangraph's group was about equal [actually probably dominent] but now those particular book stores [along with most of the churches] are beginning to learn more towards charismatic theology and doctrine. I'm sure that the "mega church" has contributed significantly to that, since most of them are charismatic.

Reza

[prose]

I think that it is fine to have various Christian books together so long as they have Catholic books as well. People don't convert to the truth by living in a bubble. They are exposed to things, and then they are challenged, and ultimately, when they are looking for the truth, they find it.

[thessalonian]

Not the point of the thread prose.

[prose]

I know... I just saw the road going that way and I followed it

[Budge]

[quote]I merely told the owner what the book was and they chose not to put it on their shelves. I didn't tell them to take it off in any sort of a demanding way.[/quote]

Sheesh how would you like me marching over to my town's Christian book store and demanding they take the Scott Hahn books of the shelves?

But I wouldnt do that, I believe grown adults in America should have the right to read what they want. I dont think its my job to censor your reading material. Dave Hunt has nothing pornographic or obscene in his books.

[NewReformation]

[quote name='thessalonian' post='1216370' date='Mar 20 2007, 09:21 AM']I think about this from time to time. We talk about the 33,000 denominations. What about books stores. Protestant vs. Catholic. I can go in to a Catholic bookstrore and find it very difficult to find contradictions between the books. Yet you go to a protestant bookstore that is usually 10 times larger and you find Hank Hanagraph, who denies pre-trib rapture, next to Tim Lahaye's Left Behind series. TD Jakes next to John MacArthur. It's nutz.[/quote]

A lot of the "Church Fathers" disagreed on different things. Should we toss them all out too?

[thessalonian]

[quote name='NewReformation' post='1216920' date='Mar 21 2007, 03:39 PM']A lot of the "Church Fathers" disagreed on different things. Should we toss them all out too?[/quote]

A lot? Oh really. A dichtomous thinking protestant would say such a thing. But through the eyes of Catholcism they disagreed little. I've read them. Protestants for instance will say they disagreed about the bishop of rome being the successor of Peter. The note that different people said Peter was the rock, some Jesus, and some Peter's faith. The truth of the matter is that in Catholic theology, all three are allowable, Peter being the literal, Jesus the spiritual, etc. These are not contradictory. No disagreement. The proof of this is that some Fathers such as Agustine, Tertullian, and Clement of Alexandria and several others noted 2 or three understandings of Matt 16:18. Further noone can be found that denied it as protestants do today. No quibbling anywhere about Peter meaning little stone or such nonsense. No revisionists saying Peter was never in Rome.

The disagreements that are found in protestant bookstores are far wider than anything that can be claimed about the Church Fathers. Your post is noted and rejected becuase I've read the Fathers and your post does not hold water. Sorry.

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='Budge' post='1216658' date='Mar 20 2007, 05:47 PM']Sheesh how would you like me marching over to my town's Christian book store and demanding they take the Scott Hahn books of the shelves?

But I wouldnt do that, I believe grown adults in America should have the right to read what they want. I dont think its my job to censor your reading material. Dave Hunt has nothing pornographic or obscene in his books.[/quote]

Nobody said that Dave Hunt had pornographic materials in his books.

So would you support a christian book store that sold porn?

[thessalonian]

[quote name='Budge' post='1216658' date='Mar 20 2007, 07:47 PM']Sheesh how would you like me marching over to my town's Christian book store and demanding they take the Scott Hahn books of the shelves?[/quote]


First of all I didn't demand anything. Second of all, go ahead. I don't care what you do.

[Jnorm888]

[quote name='thessalonian' post='1216370' date='Mar 20 2007, 08:21 AM']I think about this from time to time. We talk about the 33,000 denominations. What about books stores. Protestant vs. Catholic. I can go in to a Catholic bookstrore and find it very difficult to find contradictions between the books. Yet you go to a protestant bookstore that is usually 10 times larger and you find Hank Hanagraph, who denies pre-trib rapture, next to Tim Lahaye's Left Behind series. TD Jakes next to John MacArthur. It's nutz.[/quote]


I bought three Scott Hahn books and I had them signed by him too in a protestant book store.

[Budge]

[quote]Nobody said that Dave Hunt had pornographic materials in his books.

So would you support a christian book store that sold porn?[/quote]

NO to the silly question above.

This person went to complain because they did not like what Dave Hunt had to say in his books about her religious beliefs.

This is like me going in a bookstore and demanding they remove all the Catholic books, Joel Osteen, and other books I DO not agree with.

I dont think they have a right to tell me what Im able to read or not read. A lot of business owners are scared of lawsuits or trouble so they give in to these demands.

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='Budge' post='1217616' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:23 AM']NO to the silly question above.

This person went to complain because they did not like what Dave Hunt had to say in his books about her religious beliefs.

This is like me going in a bookstore and demanding they remove all the Catholic books, Joel Osteen, and other books I DO not agree with.

I dont think they have a right to tell me what Im able to read or not read. A lot of business owners are scared of lawsuits or trouble so they give in to these demands.[/quote]


This is NOT the same. You failed or refused to understand what was plainly said. He did not DEMAND anything. He lodged a complaint; an opinion. Yes, even Catholics get to have and express an opinion. He educated the owner on the contents of the book. The owner decided (all on his own without a gun to his head or his arms wrenched behind his back or his wife forced to wear polyester while mowing the lawn) to remove the book based on what he had learned. Simple.

The store owner/manager has EVERY right to remove or carry whatever they want or do not want to. They are not telling you you cannot read it...they are telling you you cannot buy it from them. That's all. Nothing more.

The owner has a choice in what to carry. You have a choice in where to shop. Freedom is kinda cool, huh? You want them to carry a certain book; then tell them so. They don't carry it; you go someplace that does.

[Paladin]

[quote name='Budge' post='1216371' date='Mar 20 2007, 10:29 AM']Most of them carry Catholic books too.

Right in the middle of my local one, huge Catholic section.

You find very little fundamentalist books, I have yet to even find a decent Dave Hunt book on any subject or good Bible prophecy books in a regular Christian bookstore.[/quote]
Interestingly, LifeWay Bookstores don't have a Catholic section. I went in once to find a Baptism gift and couldn't find a single crucifix. I've also been to a bookstore in Boone, NC that has a Messianic Jew section, but no Catholic. Which is interesting when a good 10% of the population is Catholic and I'd say less than 1% is Messianic Jew.

But those are out of the norm. As Budge said, most do have a Catholic section.

[Budge]

Yeah most do.
[quote]He lodged a complaint; an opinion. Yes, even Catholics get to have and express an opinion. He educated the owner on the contents of the book. The owner decided (all on his own without a gun to his head or his arms wrenched behind his back or his wife forced to wear polyester while mowing the lawn) to remove the book based on what he had learned. Simple.[/quote]

Honestly why complain unless the goal was to have the book removed? In todays litigious culture, the store keeper was probably frighten and afraid of probably being called an anti-catholic and being smeared as a "bigot" by the PC patrol. Bad for business.