desertwoman Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 [url="http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf"]insane[/url]
prose Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Nope. I don't think so. I don't think any person or population would put up with that.
Groo the Wanderer Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 [quote name='prose' post='1216488' date='Mar 20 2007, 01:32 PM']Nope. I don't think so. I don't think any person or population would put up with that.[/quote] You sure about that? After all, we did elect Billary twice and came really close on Sore Loserman....
RezaMikhaeil Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Not to mention we removed the citizens rights to chose with vaccines [9 year old girls subject to STD Vaccines], we used to even have laws making it illegal to homeschool children. You'd be surprised what previous laws this country has had and what laws we're willing to put into affect. Reza
Sojourner Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1216530' date='Mar 20 2007, 01:48 PM']You sure about that? After all, we did elect Billary twice and came really close on Sore Loserman.... [/quote] Oddly, the Patriot Act wasn't enacted under either Clinton administration ... that came from our good buddy George W., and if any legislation in recent history could be a precursor to this video it would be the Patriot Act. On the contrary, it was under "Billary" that we got HIPPA, which is either a big pain or a great privacy protection, depending on how you look at it. Edited March 20, 2007 by Terra Firma
Budge Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Hey its happening. Just wait til they order the RFID chip implants. Just wait til they pass the Democrat *hate crime* legislation, so they can haul off any one who preaches against homosexuality.
FullTruth Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1216682' date='Mar 20 2007, 09:56 PM']Move to... umm Canada? Solve all your problems.[/quote] If you think that, you have your head in the sand my friend. With tougher Gun laws, and Judicary committees being forced to change the makeup of their membership (and these are the people who choose our judges) you will see a very different Canada in five years.
jeffpugh Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 [quote name='FullTruth' post='1216686' date='Mar 20 2007, 10:06 PM']If you think that, you have your head in the sand my friend. With tougher Gun laws, and Judicary committees being forced to change the makeup of their membership (and these are the people who choose our judges) you will see a very different Canada in five years.[/quote] I guess it was sort of sarcasm when I said it... I know our country is going through similar stuff to the US. I am fighting this culture of death every day. It has my fellow youth buying into the propaganda... I don't think there is anywhere we could go in this world right now... Just stand and fight. Do something about the restrictions of our privacy!
KnightofChrist Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 What was the deal with the "loading" thing? ACLU trying to brainwash us?
KnightofChrist Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 it flashes "LOADING, LOADING LOADING" Again and again at the when its loading really fast... made me dizzy a little...
FullTruth Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 That was awesome. I had a great laugh. That's a part of the much more serious movie, America : From Freedom to Facism. I definitely advise you all to check it out. You might actually learn some real history for a change.
FullTruth Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1216693' date='Mar 20 2007, 10:15 PM']I guess it was sort of sarcasm when I said it... I know our country is going through similar stuff to the US. I am fighting this culture of death every day. It has my fellow youth buying into the propaganda... I don't think there is anywhere we could go in this world right now... Just stand and fight. Do something about the restrictions of our privacy![/quote] That sounds like Libertarian, which I am. I definitely don't like this invasion to my privacy. The day I heard downtown business owners contimplating that very evil thing, was the day I started to write a news story that had a civil rights organization say the Canadian Privacy commissioner consider such things against the Canadian Privacy act. The downtown business owners in my community didn't like me calling them out on that one.
Megz Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1216563' date='Mar 20 2007, 03:34 PM']Not to mention we removed the citizens rights to chose with vaccines [9 year old girls subject to STD Vaccines][/quote] No citizen is ever forced into a vaccine. On my college campus I know kids who've never been vacinnated, some for religions beliefs, some for health reasons. Its easy to thwart vaccines. [quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1216563' date='Mar 20 2007, 03:34 PM']we used to even have laws making it illegal to homeschool children.[/quote] I don't believe free reign homeschooling (all homeschooling legal) is the best answer either. Its WAY too easy for already crappy parents to mess up their kid, over indulgent parents to over indulge and the parents don't even have to have a high school education. Atleast in public school they have to pass some sort of test. [quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1216563' date='Mar 20 2007, 03:34 PM']You'd be surprised what previous laws this country has had and what laws we're willing to put into affect.[/quote] We had prohibition. In some states its illegal to do handstands (because it'd scare horses). There are many odd laws. My note, like many things ACLU it ignores things that Americans are very possessive, like keeping your medical records secret. And about the delivery surcharge. In my town it wasn't uncommon for certian pizza places to refuse to deliver to certian neighborhoods. A fancy neighborhood even became notorious for "you're late" and stiffing the pizza delivers, so they required credit cards. Getting pizza delivered is not a human right!!!!! Make your own pizza
Paladin Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 I give it, mm, 50 years or so. Gradually, each generation will find privacy less and less a necessary right. Eventually, the idea that there are things you do that aren't part of the public record will be completely alien. Think: 50 years ago, the idea that people could connect to nearly anyone else in the world via computer was infathomable. The idea that, via a telephone without a wire, people could contact you wherever you are was unthinkable. And any electronics or industrial parts from Japan were expected to be vastly inferior. It only takes a couple generations to change the way people think and live.
Megz Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 how we communicate and what information we choose to reaveal about ourselvs, has not changed all too much, infact, there are MORE protections of medical information than there ever were in history.
kujo Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 I manage a pizza place and I can guarantee that the pizza business is not profitable enough to have such high-tech software. That said, while humorous, this is far from impossible. We share personal information all the time--full names, telephone numbers, addresses, cities of birth, mother's maiden names, credit card numbers, [b]social security numbers,[/b] etc. 50 years ago, this practice would've been unthinkable--my grandfather refuses to tell [i]his daughter[/i], my mom, his SSN for fear that it will be used against him! But our society, which is so preoccupied and obsessed with convenience, puts itself at risk when it communicates this personal info all the time... Be afraid...be very afraid...
FullTruth Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='kujo' post='1220192' date='Mar 27 2007, 12:26 AM']I manage a pizza place and I can guarantee that the pizza business is not profitable enough to have such high-tech software. That said, while humorous, this is far from impossible. We share personal information all the time--full names, telephone numbers, addresses, cities of birth, mother's maiden names, credit card numbers, [b]social security numbers,[/b] etc. 50 years ago, this practice would've been unthinkable--my grandfather refuses to tell [i]his daughter[/i], my mom, his SSN for fear that it will be used against him! But our society, which is so preoccupied and obsessed with convenience, puts itself at risk when it communicates this personal info all the time... Be afraid...be very afraid...[/quote] My thoughts exactly. And the security issues will continue to be pressed on us, until one day, in the future, for convience and security we will be forced to have a chip in our hands or in our heads. We will do this because we have already choosen sides, weither we realize it or not. I've made my choice. I will continue to praise my lord Jesus Christ, for he has written my name in heaven, and I can't wait to see his face, and fall before his feet and worship him for his grace and his love for me! I get excited just thinking about it! Jesus has my name in the book of life! I just get pumped thinking about heaven! It is going to be so marvelous and so beautiful. AND NO SECURITY MESSURES NEEDED THERE. If you have made Jesus Christ your Lord, God, and Saviour than you're in. If you haven't, than you're not going to be with him. No need for security!
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