Maggyie Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 "Plucking" sounds like self-communicating... in other words picking the Host up and popping it in one's mouth. Is that what it is?
Mr.Cat Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 “Plucking” can be found in some places in Canada according to my Parish Priest and I have also heard from other sources, but I admit I do not recall where else (so maybe my mind is playing tricks on me about the other sources). Plucking is where the Priest in the newer rite of the Holy Mass (Novo Ordo) and pronounce “the Body of Christ” and the communicant will respond “Amen” then will take the Consecrated Host from the hand of the Priest and receive... I agree that we should focus on the fruits of Holy Communion but let us recall in context what the Church has instructed for Holy Communion in the mouth, “it is part of that preparation that is needed for the most fruitful reception of the Body of the Lord.” But to the issue that it shouldn’t be a big issue the Church writing and quoting from the early Church says about the issue of particles, “you have allowed to drop, think of it as though you had lost one of your own members.'” The Holy Church of God should always seek to glorify God and while someone suggested that there should not be a “mold” but this is exactly what the Church always seeks when it comes to decorum. For the Church wishes people to revere in “holy fear” our Blessed Lord and to love Him above all else. It is written that if we could see the glory of Christ hidden by the Sacermental Veil that we would be powerless to approach (Like Saint Peter and John the Apostles when they only saw a glimmer of His glory) and for this reason He chose to remain hidden under the appearances of bread and wine.
Budge Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Think about this folks, Jesus said to his apostles TAKE and eat...ie pick up the bread and chew it up and eat it. He didnt pass it little pieces to 12 of them demanding they not touch a crumb. or tell them, make sure you dont chew because that is MY BODY. Are you trying to tell me too, they didnt drop a crumb either? This is where some of your man-made traditions run off the rails.
Mr.Cat Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1219844' date='Mar 26 2007, 08:48 AM']Think about this folks, Jesus said to his apostles TAKE and eat...ie pick up the bread and chew it up and eat it. He didnt pass it little pieces to 12 of them demanding they not touch a crumb. or tell them, make sure you dont chew because that is MY BODY. Are you trying to tell me too, they didnt drop a crumb either? This is where some of your man-made traditions run off the rails.[/quote]They were His Apostles and Priests, so it makes sense that they could handle the Consecrated bread and wine truly being His Body and Blood. But it does not say they "picked up" anything or the manner He gave it. In most of the Scripture verses it says “disciples” when regarding to the Last Supper, not “apostles.” We simply only think of the Apostles at the Last Supper. If it is truly God then would we not be concerned how the consecrated Host is handled? It is simply anti-Catholic and unchristian doctrine that is being proposed to oppose the True Presence as far as I can see in this discussion with regards to what is in the quote. Although, nothing in the Sacred Scriptures forbid tradition from forming but rather Saint Paul commands the people to keep to the holy traditions ([i]moreover because the New Testament did not yet exist in a collection[/i]). Moreover, the few times “traditions” are spoken lowly of by our Blessed Lord is when they are created to “burden” the people and they have no purpose other than to burden or hinder their relationship with Almighty God. A good example is when the scribes accuse our Lord of wrong doing letting His apostles and follower eat with unclean hands which He then calls this tradition a tradition of man. But at the same time there are things our Lord mention such as the “Chair of Moses” (foreshadowing the Chair of Peter) which is no where mentioned in the Old Testament but is kept as Tradition until it was written in the New Testament. Edited March 26, 2007 by Mr.CatholicCat
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