Protestant Influence Of Vatican Ii?

[Mateo el Feo]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1251321' date='Apr 21 2007, 06:05 AM']I got you, thanks for that. I most definitely disagree that it's anything at all like what happened at Vatican II. But I see what you're saying.[/quote]I guess this begs the question, "What do you think happened at Vatican II?" The answers I've seen for this question have never been more than opinion and hearsay, though I'm open to correction if you've got something more substantial.

BTW, in section 15, I thought the language was even stronger that the Protestants were being invited to argue their case and have their voice heard, which certainly would have amounted to a "Protestant influence" on that council. Here's section 15:
[url="http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct15.html"]http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct15.html[/url]

[Mateo el Feo]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1251321' date='Apr 21 2007, 06:05 AM']I got you, thanks for that. I most definitely disagree that it's anything at all like what happened at Vatican II. But I see what you're saying.[/quote]I guess this begs the question, "What do you think happened at Vatican II?" The answers I've seen for this question have never been more than opinion and hearsay, though I'm open to correction if you've got something more substantial.

BTW, in section 15, I thought the language was even stronger that the Protestants were being invited to argue their case and have their voice heard, which certainly would have amounted to a "Protestant influence" on that council. Here's section 15:
[url="http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct15.html"]http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct15.html[/url]

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1251321' date='Apr 21 2007, 04:05 AM']I got you, thanks for that. I most definitely disagree that it's anything at all like what happened at Vatican II. But I see what you're saying.[/quote]
I pretty much agree goldenchild, the Catholic-Protestant situation was very different in that time: [url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15030c.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15030c.htm[/url]

A little something from wikipedia (the catholic encyclopedia article is better):

[i]It is true that the emperor intended it to be a strictly general or truly ecumenical council, at which the Protestants should have a fair hearing. He secured, during the council's second period, 1551-52, an invitation, twice given, to the Protestants to be present and the council issued a letter of safe conduct (thirteenth session) and offered them the right of discussion, but denied them a vote. Melanchthon and Johannes Brenz, with some other German Lutherans, actually started in 1552 on the journey to Trent. Brenz offered a confession and Melanchthon, who got no farther than Nuremberg, took with him the ironic statement known as the Confessio Saxonica. But the refusal to give to the Protestants the right to vote and the consternation produced by the success of Maurice in his campaign against Charles V in 1552 effectually put an end to Protestant cooperation. [/i]