Lounge Daddy Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) [quote name='FullTruth' post='1250952' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:16 PM']Do you ever post something up that isn't inflametory? Honestly?[/quote] Inflammatory? No. Factual? Yes. [quote name='Akalyte' post='1251334' date='Apr 21 2007, 07:52 AM']I put catholic apologetics tracts in a gideon bible at a hotel once and i wrote down the (catholic) history of the bible and put it in there. lol[/quote] Dude! That's too cool Edited April 21, 2007 by Lounge Daddy
homeschoolmom Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 I'm guessing it's as someone said that they were stopped not for handing out bibles, but for violating the location or some such thing. Freedom to hand out religious materials (to adults and children with parental permission) needs to be protected. [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1250936' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:13 PM']No they are not the same. In a Protestant Bible, the text was translated in favor of Protestant theology and has heretical footnotes.[/quote] I'm pretty sure the Gideon NTs have no footnotes. They're tiny. [quote name='FullTruth' post='1250952' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:16 PM']Do you ever post something up that isn't inflametory? Honestly?[/quote] I'll just end the mystery for you now... no.
homeschoolmom Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 I'm guessing it's as someone said that they were stopped not for handing out bibles, but for violating the location or some such thing. Freedom to hand out religious materials (to adults and children with parental permission) needs to be protected. [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1250936' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:13 PM']No they are not the same. In a Protestant Bible, the text was translated in favor of Protestant theology and has heretical footnotes.[/quote] I'm pretty sure the Gideon NTs have no footnotes. They're tiny. [quote name='FullTruth' post='1250952' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:16 PM']Do you ever post something up that isn't inflametory? Honestly?[/quote] I'll just end the mystery for you now... no.
Budge Posted April 21, 2007 Author Posted April 21, 2007 [quote] If it was accepted by inadvertence, it must be burnt as soon as possible or handed in to the Parish Priest. [/quote] You trying to help me out, to show that the Catholic Church did BAN and censor Bibles? [quote] they may be harmful to the Faith.[/quote] Yeah they sure will be...and thats good! [quote]Now, as Catholics we should support the Gideons in their case against Florida, because it is connected to our ability to hand out religious materials in front of abortion mills (and if deemed necessary, in front of public schools).[/quote] Yeah they lose their right to hand out religious material, so do you guys!
Lounge Daddy Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 But getting back to the original topic.... My very [i]third[/i] Bible (1st was a Catholic children's that I received as a tot, 2nd was a complete Bible that I received for my 1st Communion) was a Gideon. I liked it because it was so very pocket-sized. I am curious to see where the case goes... it seems pretty lame going after a couple of Gideons. Where is the ACLU? Oh that's right - they hate God's Word.
homeschoolmom Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1251380' date='Apr 21 2007, 10:03 AM']Where is the ACLU? Oh that's right - they hate God's Word.[/quote] sad but seemingly true.
Sojourner Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Katholikos' post='1250750' date='Apr 20 2007, 08:14 PM']This headline and story are misleading. These guys weren't arrested for handing out Bibles. It was where they were doing it that was objectionable. There are laws to protect schools, and they appear to have been in violation of those laws. This smells like another case of misrepresentation of the facts by the Fundy press.[/quote] It is not clear exactly what was objectionable about it ... there aren't many news stories on it, and non (still online) from mainstream press. The stories I read seem to indicate that Florida's law prohibits people from being within 500 feet of school property unless they have prior approval and legitimate business. If the stories I read are accurate, these men got approval beforehand from both the sheriff and the school, but then several parents complained to the school about them. Like I said, though, there is not much info online aside from the publications that clearly support these guys. Which may not be a bad thing to do, but I'd like to see the rest of the story.
Budge Posted April 21, 2007 Author Posted April 21, 2007 [quote]If the stories I read are accurate, these men got approval beforehand from both the sheriff and the school, but then several parents complained to the school about them.[/quote] Probably some secular humanists and atheists that didnt want their kids to get a Bible, which is a total SHAME. the ACLU is a NWO front, pretends to be for free speech but works AGAINST IT.
Winchester Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 I have to question whether a group would have been arrested for handing out "Why Sandy Has Two Mommies" under the same circumstances.
Budge Posted April 21, 2007 Author Posted April 21, 2007 probably not, theyd be given the key to the city or something.
Resurrexi Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1251380' date='Apr 21 2007, 08:03 AM']But getting back to the original topic.... My very [i]third[/i] Bible (1st was a Catholic children's that I received as a tot, 2nd was a complete Bible that I received for my 1st Communion) was a Gideon. I liked it because it was so very pocket-sized. I am curious to see where the case goes... it seems pretty lame going after a couple of Gideons. Where is the ACLU? Oh that's right - they hate God's Word.[/quote] If you want a really great and tiny devotional/pocket sized Bible with Catholic footnotes in the most important places, get the Baronius Press Psalms and New Testament. That's what I use for devotional reading of the Bible. Edited April 21, 2007 by StThomasMore
Budge Posted April 21, 2007 Author Posted April 21, 2007 One can get saved even reading a badly translated Catholic Bible. I read the NAB, Romans and Hebrews got me started asking questions.
cathoholic_anonymous Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) [quote]One can get saved even reading a badly translated Catholic Bible.[/quote] The most commonly used translations of the Bible in Catholic Churches are the Revised Standard Version and the New Revised Standard Version. These are also the translations that theology students are [b]obliged[/b] to use at Oxford and Cambridge Universities. The name 'Oxbridge' stands for two of the best universities in the world. And no, their theology departments don't list towards Catholicism. If anything, here at Cambridge there is a slight Protestant bias. If a world-renowned university decides that the best translation of Scripture for the purposes of its theology course is one that was prepared by Catholics, I assume that this means that the translation must be reasonably accurate. Otherwise a group of professors who have spent the last forty years studying Hebrew, Aramaic, and New Testament Greek wouldn't have chosen it. Regarding the Gideons and their Bibles, I like them. The translation is poor, but it is comforting to go into a hotel room and see the red jacket of the New Testament peeping up from the bracket by your bed. None of the Gideons I have ever met have been pushy or rude, so I don't think the fault was theirs in this case. Edited April 21, 2007 by Cathoholic Anonymous
Sojourner Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1251741' date='Apr 21 2007, 12:55 PM']One can get saved even reading a badly translated Catholic Bible. I read the NAB, Romans and Hebrews got me started asking questions.[/quote] funny ... Romans and Hebrews got ME asking questions that led me into the Catholic church ...
homeschoolmom Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1251952' date='Apr 21 2007, 05:51 PM']funny ... Romans and Hebrews got ME asking questions that led me into the Catholic church ...[/quote]
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1251952' date='Apr 21 2007, 04:51 PM']funny ... Romans and Hebrews got ME asking questions that led me into the Catholic church ...[/quote] Probably because Romans is thoroughly Catholic and only makes sense for Protestant theology when you cut out 90% of it, right? :
FullTruth Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1251371' date='Apr 21 2007, 10:56 AM']Inflammatory? No. Factual? Yes. Dude! That's too cool [/quote] Not you Lounge Daddy, unless you're StThomasMore. I'm talking about Thomas More, who says burn protestant bibles. If Roman Catholics want people to convert, don't send someone like St.ThomasMore out. He goes against the Pauline way of evangelism to become as one of the people you want to witness to.
Guest T-Bone Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1251378' date='Apr 21 2007, 08:01 AM']You trying to help me out, to show that the Catholic Church did BAN and censor Bibles?[/quote] Budge, Budge, Budge. Are are trying to say that you wouldn't be against Bibles that contained errors? Let's say someone published a Bible that said Jesus was a stoner? Would you be for or against the publsihing of said Bible?
FullTruth Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 [quote name='T-Bone' post='1252077' date='Apr 21 2007, 08:17 PM']Budge, Budge, Budge. Are are trying to say that you wouldn't be against Bibles that contained errors? Let's say someone published a Bible that said Jesus was a stoner? Would you be for or against the publsihing of said Bible?[/quote] Would you be for against a Bible called, Jesus Loves Porn Stars?
thessalonian Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Still waiting for budge to somehow twist this in to Jeb Bush and paganism.
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