Will The Universal Indult Come Out Within A Year?

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1282364' date='May 27 2007, 07:49 PM']I think that the previous missal should be restored, but translated into the vernacular languages.

Of course, I'm just a Byzantine Catholic looking in from the outside.

[/quote]

I would prefer a NO in Latin to a TLM in English if it's translated like anything else is by the ICEL.
But if the TLM were translated were translated well into English, I would prefer it to a Latin NO.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1282381' date='May 27 2007, 07:36 PM']I would prefer a NO in Latin to a TLM in English if it's translated like anything else is by the ICEL.
But if the TLM were translated were translated well into English, I would prefer it to a Latin NO.[/quote]
I am talking about a translation, not a paraphrase. Besides, there are excellent translations of the older missal in English (and probably many other languages) in prayer books that were made for the laity prior to the Second Vatican Council.

As far as the missal of Paul VI is concerned, I think that it should be scrapped entirely, and that the Roman Rite should return to the missal of Pius V (in the vernacular, with some use of Latin).

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1282382' date='May 27 2007, 08:39 PM']I am talking about a translation, not a paraphrase. Besides, there are excellent translations of the older missal in English (and probably many other languages) in prayer books that were made for the laity prior to the Second Vatican Council.

As far as the missal of Paul VI is concerned, I think that it should be scrapped entirely, and that the Roman Rite should return to the missal of Pius V (in the vernacular, with some use of Latin).[/quote]

There are many excellent translations available, and I own a missal (Angelus Press 1962) with such a translation. That said, this translation is not perfect in any way, shape or form. This biggest problems in translation I find are "et in sæcula sæculorum" and "per omina sæcula sæculorum" being translated as "world without end," when they should be translated "and unto the ages of ages" and "through all ages of ages," respectively.

Although I do not really like the suppression of the Judica Me, the Introit, the the Offertory prayers, the Communion prayers and the Last Gospel; nor do I like the addition of the second epistle and the new Offertory prayers; nor do I like the movement of the words "Mysterium Fidei" and the movement of the last blessing; I find that the Novus Ordo can be done well is it is said in Latin, ad orientem, with male altar servers, Communion kneeling on the tongue and with veiled women, etc.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1282384' date='May 27 2007, 10:56 PM']There are many excellent translations available, and I own a missal (Angelus Press 1962) with such a translation. That said, this translation is not perfect in any way, shape or form. This biggest problems in translation I find are "et in sæcula sæculorum" and "per omina sæcula sæculorum" being translated as "world without end," when they should be translated "and unto the ages of ages" and "through all ages of ages," respectively.

Although I do not really like the suppression of the Judica Me, the Introit, the the Offertory prayers, the Communion prayers and the Last Gospel; nor do I like the addition of the second epistle and the new Offertory prayers; nor do I like the movement of the words "Mysterium Fidei" and the movement of the last blessing; I find that the Novus Ordo can be done well is it is said in Latin, ad orientem, with male altar servers, Communion kneeling on the tongue and with veiled women, etc.[/quote]

Amen to the latter bit (you lost me on the former just a tad). I think I mentioned this before, but I sing at a Latin mass that is held every third week of the month at a very Catholic parish. It's really beautiful stuff. Can never go wrong with solemnity and piety.

Edited May 28, 2007 by Sacred Music Man

[jeffpugh]

I'm bumping this one up. I'm hoping the motu proprio is coming really really soon...

[jckinsman]

I guess time will tell!

[jeffpugh]

I think our answer is here. See the Open Mic Board. I guess this thread is as good as closed. MODERATOR! Please do the honours .

[Resurrexi]

Let is give thanks to God, and let us thank the Pope for the great motu proprio,[i] Summorum Pontificum[/i]!

[Don John of Austria]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1282382' date='May 27 2007, 09:39 PM']I am talking about a translation, not a paraphrase. Besides, there are excellent translations of the older missal in English (and probably many other languages) in prayer books that were made for the laity prior to the Second Vatican Council.

As far as the missal of Paul VI is concerned, I think that it should be scrapped entirely, and that the Roman Rite should return to the missal of Pius V (in the vernacular, with some use of Latin).[/quote]


I agree.

P.S. I was going to comment on how unussual for me and Apotheoun to agree on more than one thing in a week, then I realized he posted this 2 years ago.

Edited June 29, 2009 by Don John of Austria

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Don John of Austria' post='1905404' date='Jun 29 2009, 03:06 PM']I agree.

P.S. I was going to comment on how unussual for me and Apotheoun to agree on more than one thing in a week, then I realized he posted this 2 years ago.[/quote]
Radical on both accounts. I like it.

[Gregorius]

EF Mass needs to expand into my area. I would really like to attend.

[dominicansoul]

I am very happy that our dear Bishop, (soon to be Archbishop,) has left us with an FSSP parish in the diocese of Austin!!!

[Gregorius]

The closest FSSP parish is about two hours away from me, out of state.