Looking For A Convent Where The Tlm Is Celebrated

[Totus Tuus]

[quote name='Veritas' post='1302482' date='Jun 26 2007, 07:38 PM']+

Nope. I'm a local and attend Mass there on occasion. I also had a live-in at the convent -we attended Mass there daily. I also know the pastor. Plus, I work for the Diocese and I know where the TLM is in our diocese. It's NO in Latin. TLM is at Holy Trinity and Saint Augustine in South Saint Paul.

This is just for fun, my grandparents and great-grandparents were married at Saint Agnes, my mom was baptized there, and I had a number of good friends go to school there. Great parish.[/quote]

Wowzers, so why do they have a different liturgical calendar?

[Veritas]

[quote name='Totus Tuus' post='1302724' date='Jun 26 2007, 10:12 PM']Wowzers, so why do they have a different liturgical calendar?[/quote]

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Hey and if my credentials aren't enough -which is okay - here it is staight on the website: [url="http://www.stagnes.net/liturgy.html"]http://www.stagnes.net/liturgy.html[/url]

I have never known them to follow a different liturgical calendar.

[EJames]

Many Communities that use and Follow the 'Tridentine' Classical Mass, have the pre-vatican 2 Ordo, and older Liturgical calender, since the calender was changed after The Council.
so, for example, when i was at N.D. de Trior, we had different Feast days, and different Sunday Gospel readings etc, then the Novus Ordo Luturgies...the whole year A and .B. and C, thingy is new, before the Council their was not a huge variation of readings. all just like it still is in the Eastern Catholic/Orthodox Churches. YET , my Spirtual Director/father Celebrates the N.O Latin, ad orientum, but because he prays the 1962 Latin DIvine Office, he follows the 'old' calender as such..
pax et Bonum
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Edited June 27, 2007 by EJames

[Totus Tuus]

[quote name='Veritas' post='1302881' date='Jun 26 2007, 11:28 PM']+

Hey and if my credentials aren't enough -which is okay - here it is staight on the website: [url="http://www.stagnes.net/liturgy.html"]http://www.stagnes.net/liturgy.html[/url]

I have never known them to follow a different liturgical calendar.[/quote]


I didn’t mean to make is sound as if I didn’t accept your comments – they were very informative actually. Thank you! I was just curious because the whole idea of having the Novus Ordo with the old lectionary or liturgical calendar (as A.D. and EJames have implied) is totally new to me and I was curious to see how it was used. At OLAM we celebrated the Latin N.O., but everything that goes along with it is N.O. as well. I personally attend a Tridentine on Sundays here back home, and have never seen anything N.O. incorporated with it. So a mixture of the two (if I’m interpreting EJAmes’ post correctly) is novel to me.

[EJames]

[quote name='Totus Tuus' post='1303046' date='Jun 27 2007, 06:18 AM']I didn’t mean to make is sound as if I didn’t accept your comments – they were very informative actually. Thank you! I was just curious because the whole idea of having the Novus Ordo with the old lectionary or liturgical calendar (as A.D. and EJames have implied) is totally new to me and I was curious to see how it was used. At OLAM we celebrated the Latin N.O., but everything that goes along with it is N.O. as well. I personally attend a Tridentine on Sundays here back home, and have never seen anything N.O. incorporated with it. So a mixture of the two (if I’m interpreting EJAmes’ post correctly) is novel to me. [/quote]
yes.. i think the mixture is novel as well, and may only pertain to those who perhaps Celebrate a pre-Conciliar Divine Office, just so things run smoothly..

[jkaands]

The new offfshoot of the CMRI--congreg Mary Queen will prob be another in communion which will celebrate a Tridentine mass..AND they wear a (very) full, very handsome blue habit!

[Totus Tuus]

[quote name='EJames' post='1303301' date='Jun 27 2007, 02:01 PM']yes.. i think the mixture is novel as well, and may only pertain to those who perhaps Celebrate a pre-Conciliar Divine Office, just so things run smoothly..[/quote]


Yeah... that is definitely true.

[moon_child_anne]

How about the community that Mother Angelica of EWTN fame belongs to? Don't they do that? I don't know for sure though.

Anne

[EJames]

[quote name='moon_child_anne' post='1307208' date='Jun 30 2007, 07:37 PM']How about the community that Mother Angelica of EWTN fame belongs to? Don't they do that? I don't know for sure though.

Anne[/quote]
Hi, no they do not actually ,from what i have seen and read... the Sisters attend a Novos Ordo Mass, with some (Ordinaries...Kyrie, Gloria, Sanctus etc) in sung Latin.
when they were in thier old convent (=now the Friars) Holy Mass was celebrated Ad Orientum, but also facing the Sisters
pax!

Edited July 1, 2007 by EJames

[Saint_Gemma_Galgani]

The ones which I am most interested in are Gemma's orders, though I am concerned about when they will be founded.

[Guest trfr415]

The Carmelites in Manchester, MO have it once a month or once a week. The frequency escapes me at the moment. Manchester is a suburb of St. Louis, but St. Louis mailing.

Christopher

[Thomist-in-Training]

The Dominican Nuns at Buffalo, AFAIK, have the TLM at least sometimes--I don't know how often--w/Lauds & Vespers in Latin. (I think the ones at Marbury have Latin Office, but not the TLM?) Really the proper "Traditional Mass" for Dominicans is the Dominican Rite, though, but their chaplain is not a Dominican so he learnt the TLM instead.

The Franciscans of the Immaculate (Friars, Sisters, a few cloistered nuns) are a relatively new group and differ convent to convent, but are VERY orthodox and like Latin NO when they can get it--some groups have the TLM. (The Sister I know with them said at one of the convents that does, they have a class every day on the history and spirituality of it and the sisters at her convent are "all jealous"!)

So this is really one of those UNhelpful posts... but maybe it will help a little.

There is a website with a list of the US TLM communities in union with Rome... it should come up quickly on Google.

[EJames2]

The Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles is a traditional monastic community of women who desire to imitate the Blessed Virgin Mary in the giving of herself to God to fulfill His Will, especially in her role of assistance by prayer and work to the Apostles, first priests of the Catholic Church.
[b]Every day [/b]we continue the rich legacy of our predecessors with the [b]monastic office and Tridentine Mass in Gregorian Chant in Latin,[/b] the traditional liturgical language of the Roman Catholic Church.

Society in these latter days is in obvious dire need of re-evangelization and sanctification through the ministry in particular of the sacred priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church. Although times have changed, the divine mission committed to the first Apostles, as well as the needs of those to whom they were sent, have not.


[url="http://www.benedictinesofmary.org/index.html"]http://www.benedictinesofmary.org/index.html[/url]
Due to the monastic lifestyle we live, we would prefer letters in form of US mail or fax, rather than telephone or email.
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Priory of Our Lady of Ephesus
Attn: Mother Therese
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Fax: (816) 455-2063

Edited January 7, 2008 by EJames2

[the lords sheep]

[quote name='trfr415' post='1442829' date='Jan 6 2008, 10:44 PM']The Carmelites in Manchester, MO have it once a month or once a week. The frequency escapes me at the moment. Manchester is a suburb of St. Louis, but St. Louis mailing.

Christopher[/quote]


I don't believe they have it ever. I attend Mass there every once in a while (and am very close with one of the Sisters) and I've never heard anything mentioned about Latin mass.
Are you certain it's not the cloistered Carmelites in Clayton? that's very close...

[Gemma]

[quote name='trfr415' post='1442829' date='Jan 6 2008, 10:44 PM']The Carmelites in Manchester, MO have it once a month or once a week. The frequency escapes me at the moment. Manchester is a suburb of St. Louis, but St. Louis mailing.

Christopher[/quote]

It's the Carmelites in Dallas who have the TLM in their chapel. The nuns themselves don't participate.

Blessings,
Gemma

[Chiquitunga]

[quote name='Gemma' post='1442942' date='Jan 7 2008, 08:13 AM']It's the Carmelites in Dallas who have the TLM in their chapel. The nuns themselves don't participate.

Blessings,
Gemma[/quote]
Actually, the sisters are free to attend the TLM on Sundays. I know personally at least two of them do, if not all, though they only receive Holy Communion at their earlier English Mass at 7 AM.

Back when the [url="http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/"]Mater Dei Latin Mass Community[/url] was looking for a place to have it on Sundays (I'm not sure when this was, maybe early/mid 90's .. ?), the Discalced Carmelite Nuns there offered their chapel and the former bishop of Dallas, Bishop Grahmann, approved -- only he said the sisters could not participate.

So thus is why they could not. They would still hear the Mass from their choir though, just not receive Holy Communion. However, now that the MP has happened, maybe that will change over time. They [i]are[/i] more accustomed to the Novus Ordo now, and chant the Office in English, though with a few prayers in Latin. However, they did tell me they are going to begin chanting the Office in Latin on Solemnities. And they are very close to the wonderful people of the Mater Dei Community. :j

They are a beautiful traditional Carmel under the older 1990 Constitutions, and doing well with vocations. Though for someone looking for, or rather feeling the Lord is calling them to, a strictly TLM community, they should look instead at the Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in Valparaiso, NE - which is overflowing with vocations but will likely have a foundation at some point in the future.

Then there's the Buffalo, Brooklyn and Alexandria, SD Carmels, which chant the revised Office in Latin - which are beautiful.

Edited January 7, 2008 by Margaret Clare

[Chiquitunga]

Also the Discalced Carmelite Nuns in Des Plaines, IL have the Traditional Latin Mass every First Saturday in their chapel, and I'm pretty sure they've always been able to participate.

Edited January 7, 2008 by Margaret Clare

[Chiquitunga]

Hey, it looks like the DCJs in St. Louis [i]are[/i] going to have it once a month - [url="http://www.latinmassnetwork.net/2007/12/carmelite-sisters-in-kirkwood.html"]http://www.latinmassnetwork.net/2007/12/ca...n-kirkwood.html[/url]

Also, I forgot to add about Dallas, they did have a TLM offered by the FSSP priest there for a clothing ceremony last November. It seems likely they'll have more in the future. I do know at least my friend there has a great love for the TLM.

[EJames2]

i assume that its only in America that this inquiry is focused on, but if interested, i can tell you of the 8 or so Communities in France (both Cloistered or Apostolic), who Celebrate exclusively the Traditional Rites of The Church.
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pax

[Saint_Gemma_Galgani]

[quote name='EJames2' post='1443022' date='Jan 7 2008, 12:23 PM']i assume that its only in America that this inquiry is focused on, but if interested, i can tell you of the 8 or so Communities in France (both Cloistered or Apostolic), who Celebrate exclusively the Traditional Rites of The Church.
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pax[/quote]
I am also interested in ones in France, especially if they are Passionists.