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Vatican Exorcist Amorth Speaks On Satan's Smoke


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KnightofChrist
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[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1331933' date='Jul 17 2007, 12:29 AM']The height of my Italian speaking skills passed about seven years ago, but I can still muddle my way through to some extent. :)

If I didn't have to spend so much time working (yuck) I would devote that time to languages.

Thanks for the good advice Knight![/quote]


I will continue to search for some kind of contact to Father Amorth, if I find one I will forward it to you.

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Maybe I can help, too? Oh, and I found a link to the original 30 giorni article in Italian.
[url="http://www.30giorni.it/it/articolo.asp?id=2564"]http://www.30giorni.it/it/articolo.asp?id=2564[/url]

Did you want my translation? L'Italiano lo parlo abbastanza bene, posso anche parlare in Romanaccio. ^_^ However, I'm working out of town most days ths week , could get onto it later...

KofC if you find a way to link him, I've always wanted Padre Amorth's autograph ;)

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[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1331829' date='Jul 17 2007, 06:45 AM']I have a slightly different translation of that, for example.
Mine:
:idontknow:[/quote]
I just checked that paragraph you provided against the Italian...it fits.

"AMORTH: Il Concilio Vaticano II aveva chiesto di rivedere alcuni testi. Disobbedendo a quel comando, si è voluto invece rifarli completamente. Senza pensare che si potevano anche peggiorare le cose anziché migliorarle. E tanti riti sono stati peggiorati per questa mania di voler buttare via tutto quello che c’era nel passato e rifare tutto daccapo, come se la Chiesa fino ad oggi ci avesse sempre imbrogliato e ingannato, e solo adesso fosse finalmente arrivato il tempo dei grandi geni, dei superteologi, dei superbiblisti, dei superliturgisti che sanno dare alla Chiesa le cose giuste. Una menzogna: l’ultimo Concilio aveva semplicemente chiesto di rivederli quei testi, non di distruggerli.
Il Rituale esorcistico, per esempio: andava corretto, non rifatto. C’erano preghiere che hanno dodici secoli di esperienza. Prima di cancellare preghiere così antiche e che per secoli si sono dimostrate efficaci, bisognerebbe pensarci a lungo. E invece no. Tutti noi esorcisti, utilizzando per prova le preghiere del nuovo Rituale ad interim, abbiamo sperimentato che sono assolutamente inefficaci.
Ma anche il rito del battesimo dei bambini è stato peggiorato."

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Just thought I'd note that I'd take anything published in [i]30 Giorni[/i] with a grain of salt. Haven't read it in many years, but that rag had some really weird stuff in it. Definitely a mixed bag.

saint_wannabe
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were the two poems "WHAT SATAN FEARS MOST" and "WHO CARRIES HIS BUSINESS ON?" written by fr amorth too?

KnightofChrist
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[quote name='saint_wannabe' post='1334207' date='Jul 18 2007, 07:28 PM']were the two poems "WHAT SATAN FEARS MOST" and "WHO CARRIES HIS BUSINESS ON?" written by fr amorth too?[/quote]


Oh no, they were something I thought would go with the article... I heard Bishop Fulton Sheen speak them... thought it good to post them..

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KnightofChrist
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[quote name='Socrates' post='1333024' date='Jul 17 2007, 08:51 PM']Just thought I'd note that I'd take anything published in [i]30 Giorni[/i] with a grain of salt. Haven't read it in many years, but that rag had some really weird stuff in it. Definitely a mixed bag.[/quote]

Well that is not good no, but the things said seem to check out... hey even Art Bell will have a real guess once and a full moon. Ha!

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[quote name='Didymus' post='1330725' date='Jul 16 2007, 10:43 AM']it also intrigued me that he mentioned Marilyn Manson's name particularly. you gotta be one pretty jacked up public figure to be brought up in an interview with a vatican exorcist...[/quote]


lol right ?

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Articles like this further show that there is a ton more to be done. It's overwhelming. :(

Nihil Obstat
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Society would do well to listen to Fr. Amorth. He's quite radical in his views, and this is necessary. I don't go quite as far in his evaluation of music and books, but that doesn't mean I disagree with a single thing he says.
Sometimes he's a bit harsh with bishops too, but on the other hand, maybe he's someone with the experience to actually talk to them.

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