Paddington Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 At no point in the article does Ray Comfort disagree with St. Francis. Ray is crazy in his attention-grabbers tho. He compliments Francis at the bottom and separates St. Francis from any misuse of the quote. I made the mistake of not getting that at first. I guess I wasn't alone either.
Mateo el Feo Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 [quote name='Paddington' post='1362923' date='Aug 19 2007, 03:17 PM']He compliments Francis at the bottom and separates St. Francis from any misuse of the quote.[/quote]Fair enough, but it looks like he is claiming that the author of the quote actually advocates hindering (his word) the preaching of the Gospel, instead of saying that it was the misuse of the quote, as you suggest. For me, this is something akin to quoting Our Lord in today's Gospel reading ([url="http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/luke/luke12.htm#v49"]Lk 12:49-53[/url]) and suggesting that He wanted to hinder peace and family harmony.
Paddington Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1362954' date='Aug 19 2007, 05:35 PM']Fair enough, but it looks like he is claiming that the author of the quote actually advocates hindering (his word) the preaching of the Gospel, instead of saying that it was the misuse of the quote, as you suggest.[/quote] Ah yes! Thanks MeF.
jeffpugh Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1362904' date='Aug 19 2007, 02:07 PM']I do. But, I find it more ironic that Mr. Comfort is putting St. Francis on trial for his attitude toward preaching. St. Francis and his followers were no strangers to preaching, and even boldly preached the Gospel to the sultan in Egypt. As usual, televangelists' ability to do the most basic research before "confronting a topic" leaves me unimpressed.[/quote] Yeah, I remember learning that about St Francis... He thought one day, that, "hey, I wanna be a martyr! I'm goona go boldly preach to the sultan in his Tent!" And off he went with a couple of brothers, and it turned out the sultan didn't kill him, but he listened to St Francis... and I think there was something noted about the guy's boldness by the Sultan...
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 I guess Budge doesn't have a response to our refutations.
homeschoolmom Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 I guess not. That's weird... she doesn't usually just post a smear and leave a thread like this....
Sojourner Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1364081' date='Aug 20 2007, 06:55 AM']I guess not. That's weird... she doesn't usually just post a smear and leave a thread like this.... [/quote] No, she never does ... usually she sticks around to defend her points.
Sojourner Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 well, like St. Paul he is trying to be all things to all people ... to the cave man, a cave man ...
scardella Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1364174' date='Aug 20 2007, 10:31 AM']well, like St. Paul he is trying to be all things to all people ... to the cave man, a cave man ...[/quote] This is me: [img]http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/photos/uncategorized/geicocavemen.jpg[/img] [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1364161' date='Aug 20 2007, 10:09 AM'] An effective method, I am sure.[/quote] For Tim "the Toolman" Taylor, definitely! Edited August 20, 2007 by scardella
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 On a serious note, though, I would like to see what Budge has to say about the arguments we've provided.
kamiller42 Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1364204' date='Aug 20 2007, 11:10 AM']On a serious note, though, I would like to see what Budge has to say about the arguments we've provided.[/quote] [b]Now that is the most popular saying on Phatmass boards.[/b] The request is more often than not denied.
Lord Philip Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1360324' date='Aug 16 2007, 04:03 PM']I cringe when people use it... [center] [b] “Preach the Gospel at all times. Where necessary, use words.”[/b][/center] (1.)[/quote] The day Ray Comfort gives up all his money, all his fame, his television show, his family, his comfort (no pun intended), his house, his job, his car, his television, his computer, his retirement plans, his friends, his hot showers, his personal opinions, his pride, his jealousy, his self-righteousness, his shoes and socks, and the very clothes from his back....the day he spends hard time in prison for his beliefs, submits to authority, is spit upon, chooses to live a celibate life, preaches with pure love, creates poetry and devotions to God that last a thousand years, receives visions, builds a church with his bare hands, accepts food by charity, offers to walk into fire to convert muslims, embraces a leper and receives the stigmata....then on that day and ONLY that day will I listen to his snyde comments and attacks on St. Francis of Assisi. May God have mercy upon me and upon him, Philip
Akalyte Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Budge you cringe when you hear the word catholic. Big surprise.
Paddington Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 [quote name='Lord Philip' post='1364516' date='Aug 20 2007, 07:31 PM']...then on that day and ONLY that day will I listen to his snyde comments and attacks on St. Francis of Assisi.[/quote] I don't think you read the whole article or all the other posts in the thread.
Slappo Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 jeeze.... even if all that happened I wouldn't listen to his attacks on St. Francis! St. Francis is in heaven 100% for sure... no matter how holy any other guy is... don't attack a freaking SAINT.
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