willguy Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 Theo, I technically stand by my statement. However, in the context of the discussion, the word "Co-Redeemer" had gained a different implication that the way in which I was using it. I saw it as more practical for the discussion for me to simply drop the word co-redeemer and put my definition of what I meant by it in its place than to have two definitions of the word floating around in the same discussion.
M.SIGGA Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 Thanks a mil Laudate...again lol. I got to reading those other links today and they are also very good and informative.
jmjtina Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Professor Mark Miravalle Views a Marian Feast this is interesting. I have his book on the Blessed Mother being the Co-Redemptrix......and she is. LD, amesome work!
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Thank you tina! That's quite an excellent article. :cool:
marielapin Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Laudate, thanks for posting such great info on such a commonly misunderstood topic. Hey, when I first heard of it I balked just as much as Brother Adam...of course, I balked at the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception as well. Actually learning what is meant by these dogmas and doctrine and the key behind understanding. The Marian dogmas/doctrines were the single biggest hump I had to cross in becoming Catholic. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, Send now Your Spirit over the earth. Let the Holy Spirit live in the hearts of all peoples, that they may be preserved from corruption, disaster, and war. May the Lady of all Peoples who once was Mary be our advocate, Amen. Do you still have more questions, Bro. Adam?
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 thank you marielapin! by the way Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, Send now Your Spirit over the earth. Let the Holy Spirit live in the hearts of all peoples, that they may be preserved from corruption, disaster, and war. May the Lady of all Peoples who once was Mary be our advocate, Amen where did you get this translation of this prayer? I'm used to saying this prayer differently (nations instead of peoples, degeneration instead of corruption..). I was just wondering because it suggests and apostolate promoting this apparition of which I am not aware. Thanks
willguy Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 I've heard it as "Lady of All Nations" too. And, btw, I believe it is an approved apparition.
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 I've heard it as "Lady of All Nations" too. And, btw, I believe it is an approved apparition. As far as I know it's approved on the level of the local Bishop.
marielapin Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 http://www.communaute-dame.qc.ca/CD_present_dame_AN.htm Look under the Litany of All Peoples, at the bottom. My husband and his family are associated with the Army of Mary. That translation of the prayer is the one on the website and is the one they use.
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks! I like the site.. Are you Quebecois?
marielapin Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks! I like the site.. Are you Quebecois? No. But Marie Paul is, I believe, and she founded the Army of Mary.
BullnaChinaShop Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 There is a group of members of the Army of Mary in western KY where I grew up.
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 Interesting Bull I think you write that just to be able to post. How was that interesting? Actually I wrote this just to be able to post. :punk:
BullnaChinaShop Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 In case you don't know I am Marielapin's husband and I gave how my family was associated with The Army of Mary without being from Quebec.
Jake Huether Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 In response to how Mary could be "so high", yet still be infinitely lower than God. Just think in mathematical terms. we are like 1 (or technically closer to zero). Mary is like 1 zillion cabillion jillion. God is infinite. What is infiniti divided by 1? Infiniti. What is infiniti divided by 1 zillion cabillion jillion? Still infiniti. Mary is still a human. She is still infinitly less than God. But she is so much more than us! We can NEVER know what it is like to say that particular yes that she said. We could not know what it is like to watch our Son, The Savior of the World, die in front of us. No one else had her relationship with God Incarnate. No one else can claim the motherhood of Jesus Christ, God the Son. She has earned her titles. Though I'm sure one of her continuous prayers NOW is for God to stop honoring her. But He is a proud Father, and Jesus a proud Son, and the Holy Spirit is a proud Spouse. And no matter how humble Mary is, no matter how much she doesn't want the glory, God wants it for her. God wishes us to acknowledge His mom.
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