A Guy With His Shirt Off

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[quote name='chelsea' post='1371151' date='Aug 26 2007, 05:31 PM']I have no problem with guys not wearing shirts.

But that being said, if a guy doesnt have to wear a shirt, girls shouldnt have to wear a one piece. its the same principle.[/quote]

[b][color="#4169E1"]I don't think that is a very prudent line of thought...

And I LOVE Didymus' post about bikinis. So true![/color][/b]

[photosynthesis]

Whenever I go swimming, I tend to wear a one-piece bathing suit. If I'm sitting on the beach or by the pool, I'll put on shorts or a sarong for a cover-up. As long as the bathing suit doesn't show cleavage, I think this is pretty standard in terms of modesty at the beach.

Would I show that much skin at work? No. Would I wear an outfit like that to church? Absolutely not. But I think it's acceptable to show a little bit more skin at the beach than you wouldn't ordinarily show, simply because it's hot and it's safer to swim when you're not dragged down by lots of clothing.

As for men, I think it's acceptable to just wear swim trunks when you're in the ocean, although most men in my family tend to swim with T-shirts on too. I think that's because they're hairy, portly and have fair Irish skin and not because they're concerned people lusting after them.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Totus Tuus' post='1371516' date='Aug 27 2007, 09:09 AM']"The Privilege of Being a Woman" by Alice Von Hildebrand talks about this. She says that because a woman's body can hold life within it, certain parts of her body should be covered that men do not need to cover as an absolute rule.[/quote]
That's really insightful

[aprilvasquez]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1371400' date='Aug 26 2007, 11:40 PM']This topic reminded me of a funny story my dad told me. When he was a kid, the YMCA was just for guys, and they swam in the nude. After swim class, he discovered that someone had stolen his clothes. He had to go home by running across the rooftops. In NYC you can do that is some parts of town. It was also snowing at the time, so no one was sunning themselves on the tar beaches. He lived with his grandmother, and she vacillated between being angry at him for losing his clothes, and corrupting the morals of anyone who might have seen him. I forget how many rosaries he said she made him do, but it was a bunch.[/quote]

[aprilvasquez]

[quote name='T-Bone _' post='1371523' date='Aug 27 2007, 09:21 AM']I have man-boobs, a pot belly, and weird patches of hair all over. I flaunt my body all the time.[/quote]
PLEASE STOP!

[aprilvasquez]

[quote name='kateri05' post='1371694' date='Aug 27 2007, 02:34 PM']amen cmom!
i agree! i actually hate one pieces (well, unless you're on swim team), they end up being SO unflattering and make you look pregnant, when you're NOT, at least on me anyways. they're just too clingy, tankinis actually have more fabric or something so that there is a little more draping of fabric going on, instead of just tight yuckiness.[/quote]

plus I don't being completely uncovered to use the bathroom

[kateri05]

ooh too true, especially considering how shady pool bathrooms can be!

[photosynthesis]

[quote name='kateri05' post='1379040' date='Sep 5 2007, 10:03 PM']ooh too true, especially considering how shady pool bathrooms can be![/quote]
Hey, at least y'all are using the bathroom. Some people don't even have the decency to do that.

[Brigid]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1371415' date='Aug 26 2007, 11:53 PM']so true. girls - please cover your stomach! not because it is unattractive, (cuz it's not unattractive) but because it is [i]so sacred![/i]

where precious life spends it's first moments shielded by a mother's womb[/quote]
ah, wow! If I hadn't already decided to keep my tummy covered, that totally would have done it. thanks didy.

[quote name='kateri05' post='1371694' date='Aug 27 2007, 02:34 PM']amen cmom!
i agree! i actually hate one pieces (well, unless you're on swim team), they end up being SO unflattering and make you look pregnant, when you're NOT, at least on me anyways. they're just too clingy, tankinis actually have more fabric or something so that there is a little more draping of fabric going on, instead of just tight yuckiness.[/quote]
I usually don't like one pieces, and I love tankinis! except, I grew since last summer, so my tankini showed this nice little strip of tummy every time I moved... so I used my one piece a lot this summer. and can I say that it's pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to find a swimsuit that doesn't show cleavage and is still cute... moms can get away with not being cute, but if you're fifteen and wearing a not cute swimsuit, you're pretty much dead. not to mention that the only type of suits they make for teens are bikinis and more bikinis. Target usually has a couple styles of tankinis, and I think I found my cute one-piece at... um... I don't remember.

[quote name='aprilvasquez' post='1379030' date='Sep 5 2007, 09:00 PM']plus I don't being completely uncovered to use the bathroom [/quote]
I concur wholeheartedly!

[adt6247]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1371054' date='Aug 26 2007, 04:56 PM']Speedos in public are a mortal sin.[/quote]
Agreed. I just wish I could convince my Italian relatives of this...

[adt6247]

[quote name='Terra Firma' post='1371598' date='Aug 27 2007, 01:31 PM']And to expand on my earlier comment, after some thought: When I have issues with a guy being shirtless, I think of it as my problem and not his. As in, I don't think a shirtless guy is immodest. I think that if I have an issue it is my heart/mind that needs to change, not his level of dress.[/quote]
See, this I take issue with. A man should take responsibility toward those around him, as much as a woman.

On the very, very few occasions I go to the beach and/or pool, I wear a shirt, except for when I'm in the water. I'll often take off my shirt to do sweaty work around the house, but only if there's no women around (which is most of the time). Outdoors, though, I wear a shirt.

Again, it's not only about causing others to sin (frankly, male immodesty is less likely to cause a woman to sin, as women are not stimulated visually to the same degree men are, but it's still a factor), but it's about appropriateness and modesty. Male beauty isn't as sacred as female beauty, however, one must not flaunt one's body. One must treat the body with reverence, and save such displays for marriage.

Not to mention, some of us are flabby wookies. No one wants to see that...

[XIX]

Honestly, it is hot enough to wanna take your shirt off, it is probably sunny enough that you want to keep your shirt on to defend yourself from the sun's rays. Some people obsess with tanning, which I find ridiculous.

I mean honestly, w--w--wwhh-wwwhhyyyy? What is so great about a suntan that you would slap on SPF 0.5 and bake yourself for hours on end? Why are suntans considered objectively attractive to begin with?

Personally, skin cancer just isn't my thing. And, not to sounds racist, but I also don't like the idea of becoming lobster-red for days at a time. But that's just me.

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[quote name='XIX' post='1379477' date='Sep 6 2007, 11:36 AM']Honestly, it is hot enough to wanna take your shirt off, it is probably sunny enough that you want to keep your shirt on to defend yourself from the sun's rays. Some people obsess with tanning, which I find ridiculous.

I mean honestly, w--w--wwhh-wwwhhyyyy? What is so great about a suntan that you would slap on SPF 0.5 and bake yourself for hours on end? Why are suntans considered objectively attractive to begin with?

Personally, skin cancer just isn't my thing. And, not to sounds racist, but I also don't like the idea of becoming lobster-red for days at a time. But that's just me.[/quote]
Some of us have to worry about this less than others. Though I do burn if I spend lots of time in the sun (as I recently found out), I can usually do 3-4 hours with no ill effects. Those of us of Mediterranean descent often have a bit of a leg up on those that come from further north...

[jeffpugh]

True. I seem to burn easily if I'm not careful.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='prose' post='1371583' date='Aug 27 2007, 08:51 AM']I don't mind shirtless. BUT the bottoms need to be pulled up to an appropriate level. Men with the swim trunks that seem to be being held up by their... um... privates. And then you see not only the six pack, but the muscles that lead to their pelvis. This can DEFINITELY be occasion to sin. definitely.

Overall, however, I think it is fine.

As for the 2-piece. A tankini I think is perfectly modest and appropriate.[/quote]
so agreed on all points.

[jeffpugh]

Okay, I'm goona ask. What is it?

[Lil Red]

for picture of modest tankinis, click [url="http://www.modbeclothing.com/topinclude.asp?pageidd=1&cid=3&proid=54"]here.[/url]

[jeffpugh]

Not too bad for modesty, though I guess swimwear for both genders is not too flattering. Meh. Btw, I dont see how one gets a tan w/ that... /sarcasm

[Justin86]

Actually, tans that you aren't born with, of any sort, are unhealthy and cause skin cancer.

[Justin86]

By the way, I'm not wearing a shirt right now.