Hilary To Require Health Insurance To Get Job?

[Norseman82]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1390560' date='Sep 22 2007, 08:52 AM']Yes, of course. Candy is not good for babies. I would be doing a service.

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AH! So government knows what's best for us, eh?!?!

[XIX]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1390396' date='Sep 22 2007, 12:02 AM']Actually I doubt Hilary would hesitate to steal candy from a baby.[/quote]
She wouldn't try, because she knows that most babies are far superior to her in physical strength. So anything that is only as easy as stealing candy from a baby is way too difficult for her to ever attempt.

I hear Mr. Burns defeated Hilary in an arm wrestling match.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='T-Bone _' post='1390404' date='Sep 21 2007, 11:09 PM']If you saw candy in the hands of a helpless baby, would you seize and consume it?[/quote]


[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1390560' date='Sep 22 2007, 08:52 AM']Yes, of course. Candy is not good for babies. I would be doing a service.

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[quote name='Norseman82' post='1390720' date='Sep 22 2007, 01:52 PM']AH! So government knows what's best for us, eh?!?! [/quote]
Not government... just me, personally.

[N/A Gone]

And people wonder why I am politically apathetic.

hmm...new thread?

[IgnatiusAntioch]

[quote name='adt6247' post='1389934' date='Sep 21 2007, 03:38 PM']Don't fool yourselves. The republicans and the democrats both care about one thing above any other: power. Everything from our voting systems, to the McCain's campaign finance reform, to tolerance of illegal immigration, to welfare, to the fact that Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned yet, is calculated political strategy to keep both parties in power.[/quote]



Hey! Don't forget money, their TWO chief desires are money and power and the tremendous honors bestowed on them...

AMONGST THEIR DESIRES...

[SarahB]

[quote name='kujo' post='1389848' date='Sep 21 2007, 12:33 PM']I don't think this is a fair depiction of Hillary or any other Democratic candidate. I am about as Republican as you can be, but I don't find it necessary to demonize the opposition. Truthfully, I believe that people like Hillary and Edwards and Obama and Cindy Sheehan and Nancy Pelosi all honestly believe that what they have to offer is what's best for the American people. By and large, I don't think that these people are money-hungry megabots who gobble up power like Hungry-Hungry Hippos; rather, I think that (in their warped mind) dependence on the government is a good thing. Now, they are wrong as you could be. But that doesn't make them evil.

Cheers.[/quote]

Well, I'm not a Republican, so it's not demonizing the opposition. It's demonizing what's wrong. And they're wrong, on that and so many other things. The same with the Republicans. But we were talking about Hilary and the Democrats here. They may be good people at heart, but their ideas are wrong and harmful for the country and that should be brought to the light.

[Fidei Defensor]

I'm all for more widely available health care. I believe everyone should have access, and I don't care which cantidate offers the plan, I just hope someone does.

[Socrates]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1393793' date='Sep 26 2007, 08:32 PM']I'm all for more widely available health care. I believe everyone should have access, and I don't care which cantidate offers the plan, I just hope someone does.[/quote]
The problem is "free health care"'s not free. Somebody has to pay the tab.

[Faustina]

Thank you for sharing that article. Maybe we should all move overseas or to Canada. Doesn't Canada provide health insurance to everyone there free?

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1393810' date='Sep 26 2007, 07:44 PM']The problem is "free health care"'s not free. Somebody has to pay the tab.[/quote]
More widely available, not free. But you can't put a price on health. If you don't have it, well, nothing else really matters now does it?

[dairygirl4u2c]

bottomline. most people even most poor tending can afford to go to the doctor every onece in awhile. they should pay for it themselves to prevent people abusing a free syustem. insurance is high because peple abuse it, and really it's usually not needed anyway. the only thing that the government might do, is if you are poor, give you emergency subsidies. not insurance as that only lines insurance companies pockets. in my ideal system, the poor would have to pay a certain amount based on their standards, and the government would pick up the tab on teh exess for the emergency situations where things cost a lot.
if people dont' go to the doctor for everyday stuff, that's usually their own fault. we don't want people taking care of themselves only cause they want to abuse the system.

[Winchester]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1394935' date='Sep 28 2007, 07:18 PM']insurance is high because peple abuse it, and really it's usually not needed anyway.[/quote]
Insurance is high because the skilled/smart people in the health care system want to get rich. Abuse has very little to do with it. If it were abuse, then doctors and the upper echelon in the insurance industry would be driving modest cars and living in normal houses. It's like a doctor driving about in his new Jag (Jaguar is a crappy car, BTW) all the while stating he must charge high fees to cover his malpractice insurance. Horse hockey.

[Paladin D]

Why would I want to be forced to pay taxes on a socialized healthcare system, if I was an individual who rarely got sick compared to most people? I don't fully agree with the current system, but switching to another system that claims to be "free" by forcing the populace to pay taxes on it, is not only deceiving but puts us in even more bondage to the government. At least under the current system, we can choose our own plans or decide not to get health insurance.

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote]Insurance is high because the skilled/smart people in the health care system want to get rich. Abuse has very little to do with it. If it were abuse, then doctors and the upper echelon in the insurance industry would be driving modest cars and living in normal houses. It's like a doctor driving about in his new Jag (Jaguar is a crappy car, BTW) all the while stating he must charge high fees to cover his malpractice insurance. Horse hockey.[/quote]

you're prob right. i've heard docs don't pay that much on malpractice insurance etc relatively. so, docs and insurance say they have to charge more, not because people abuse or docs need to cover, but because people are willing to pay it. especially for insurance.
for docs it might be more a matter of supply and demand.
which makes me think they should allow more docs in school, as there are so many that can't make the cut but are qualified. some say docs would just run more tests etc, but i digress.

[dairygirl4u2c]

but whatever the case, getting insurance for those who can't afford again is insane.

[Fidei Defensor]

Side note, i take issue with people who complain about taxes, and then complain when the government doesnt provide [insert service here] for them. You cant have it both ways. If you want services, you pay taxes. If you want low taxes, you dont get services.

Anyway. i believe we have a duty to provide at least basic care to those who need it but cant afford. And since you dont see any hospitals offering any free care, the government should provide, even if it costs the rest of us. Again, whats more important? Money or health?