Chiquitunga Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 [quote name='Raphael' post='1398786' date='Oct 7 2007, 08:49 AM']Dr. Mark Miravalle, one of the world's leading Mariologists (who would never oppose the Magisterium), says that Our Lady of All Nations is okay, despite some of the groups attached to it. I reserve judgment until the Vatican speaks officially and definitively. However, it is clear that this associated group is the work of the devil.[/quote] Yes, his article here: [url="http://www.motherofallpeoples.com/index.php/Marian-Private-Revelation/Between-Condemned-Army-of-Mary-and-Authentic-Lady-of-All-Nations-An-Ocean-of-Separation.html"]Between Condemned Army of Mary and Authentic Lady of All Nations: An Ocean of Separation[/url] The local ordinary, Bishop Punt, for the Lady of All Nations apparitions/devotion has declared it to be supernatural in origin - [url="http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/our_lady_of_all_nations.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/our_lad...all_nations.htm[/url] The Army of Mary mov't out of Quebec (also called "The Community of the Lady of All Nations") has a devotion to the approved Lady of All Nations, in addition to following the false visionary of Quebec, Marie-Paule Giguère. Unfortunately, they tried to associate themselves with the Lady of All Nations out of Amsterdam, with its approved status, and made false claims that the approved visionary of Amsterdam, Ida Peerdeman, said that the visionary/founder of the Army of Mary, Marie-Paule Giguère, was authentic. But as the following official press from the Diocese of Haarlem/Amsterdam says, any such claims are false, and the Army of Mary is completely separate from the Lady of All Nations of Amsterdam. [url="http://www.de-vrouwe.net/downloads/english/070918_Army_of_Mary.pdf"]Official press release[/url] (pdf file) from the Diocese of Haarlem/Amsterdam, September 18, 2007 [url="http://www.de-vrouwe.net/"]http://www.de-vrouwe.net/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 [quote name='Raphael' post='1398786' date='Oct 7 2007, 08:49 AM']Dr. Mark Miravalle, one of the world's leading Mariologists (who would never oppose the Magisterium), says that Our Lady of All Nations is okay, despite some of the groups attached to it. I reserve judgment until the Vatican speaks officially and definitively. However, it is clear that this associated group is the work of the devil.[/quote] But yeah, that is always the best position to have. I personally believe the Lady of All Nations apparitions are authentic, and trust Dr. Miravalle's writings on private revelation, but definitely reserve final judgment to the Vatican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Go4th2Love Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Somebody please corrct me if I am wrong, but the article says that excommunication prohibits the nuns from "participating" in the liturgy. I have been lead to believe that excommunication only prohibits reception of the sacraments. Maybe they meant "participate" (in the common usage of the word participate), that they could not serve actively in the mass, i.e. music or extraordinary minister of Holy Communion. Does the Church ever actually prohibit someone from "attending" mass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeCatholic Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 participating in the liturgy means receiving holy communion. Going to mass and "Participating" fully, are totally different things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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