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[quote name='Saint_Gemma_Galgani' post='1395313' date='Sep 29 2007, 08:47 PM']Neither. God is a RadTrad. :punk:[/quote]

Ummmm...no. :)

I'm no good at debating, but I tend to agree with what Paladin and Knight of Christ said. :)

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[quote name='XIX' post='1395414' date='Sep 30 2007, 03:22 AM']:facepalm:
Ironically, the definition of the words "conservative" and "liberal" have changed over time. Conservative used to mean anti-female voting rights. Liberal used to mean you were like JFK, if I'm not mistaken. The mere notion that God can be defined by such limited political terms is, with all due respect, a ridiculous joke.[/quote]

You're mistaken bro.

"Conservative" and "Liberal" are not exclusively political terms.

The ignorance of the mere meaning of the words astonds me and shows that too many people assume what they mean.

Conservative = stay the same.
Liberal = change

Those terms are used in various ways with various topics.

When used with "morals", as the question states in the first post has NOTHING to do with politics.

It's a shame that many people on this board only see a few words when posting on something.

[quote]Is God Liberal Or Conservative?, [size=5][b]when it comes to morallity [/b][/size][/quote]


People,
Please pay attention.


God Bless,
ironmonk

Posted (edited)

[quote name='infinitelord1' post='1395058' date='Sep 29 2007, 09:43 AM']We all know that there are issues of morallity when it comes to good and evil....how does God look at people when they sin? We believe in Moral sins however we also believe in God's mercy....when does god show mercy and when does he draw the line?[/quote]
As everyone knows, God is a die-hard right-wing conservative when it comes to moral issues. He is firmly against adultery, fornication, homosexuality, pornography, blasphemy, abortion, and all those other things liberals love so much.

All our sins deserve justice, yet God always forgives the repentent sinner in sacrament of penance.

God's Justice and Mercy are infinite, yet that really has nothing to do with conservative and liberal.

Edited by Socrates
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[quote name='ironmonk' post='1395793' date='Sep 30 2007, 10:41 PM']You're mistaken bro.

"Conservative" and "Liberal" are not exclusively political terms.

The ignorance of the mere meaning of the words astonds me and shows that too many people assume what they mean.

Conservative = stay the same.
Liberal = change

Those terms are used in various ways with various topics.

When used with "morals", as the question states in the first post has NOTHING to do with politics.

It's a shame that many people on this board only see a few words when posting on something.
People,
Please pay attention.
God Bless,
ironmonk[/quote]
Speaking of people who only see a few words...

[url="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conservative"]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conservative[/url]
[url="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal"]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal[/url]

Apparently conservative and liberal mean more than what you just stated. If you are going to call other out for being ignorant of the definition of words, you might want to acknowledge that liberal and conservative mean more than the 4 words you have given us.

Depending on what definition of L or C you are using, you could say that God is liberal for allowing NFP, or for asking us to help the poor, or for not saying everything literally. You could call Him conservative for reasons already mentioned. Bottom line, it's silly to try to put the Lord in one of those boxes.

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[quote name='ironmonk' post='1395793' date='Sep 30 2007, 10:41 PM']Conservative = stay the same.
Liberal = change[/quote]
Actually, you're flat wrong. Politically liberal-minded people nowadays are for sweeping changes, but that does not define the word. Liberal means permissive, generous -- from the Latin libre, or freedom. Conservative does imply resisting change, or conservation. But by this definition, an environmentalist is a conservative, and a gun-rights lobbyist is a liberal.

One could argue that God is both, as he is unchanging, favors tradition, and offers us freedom and more mercy than we deserve. Alas, it's a silly question to begin with.

dairygirl4u2c
Posted (edited)

people who are called "conservative" have believed tons of immoral things in the past. that doesn't mean God is conservative.
you can't focus only the political terms, but you can't ignore it either.
to say that conservative is not changing and liberal is changing ignites the policos.
plus, even without the politicos, ie right and left politics, people have differeing dogmas. God is not conservative when they are wrong. relative to them, he's liberal.
relative to himself arguably is all that matters though.
but still, you can't igonre morality in the politicos.
i think it reflects more on the person claiming he's one or the other, than on whether God is conservative or not.
you can claim he's coverfavite, but at least disclaim yourself.
it makes one wonder if people who don't disclaim even understand what they are saying or being presented.

Edited by dairygirl4u2c
Posted (edited)

Child please... lol... I am completely aware of the multiple meanings of the words.

Wow... not only do some people here need to learn to pay attention, they need to learn a small caveat of writing called [i][b]Context[/b][/i].

Here is a clue.... the question has NOTHING to do with politics.

Edited by ironmonk
Posted

I am fully aware of the context of this post. Morally speaking, the definition of "liberal" and "conservative" do not have a lot to do with changing or unchanging. Those definitions, if anything, are purely political definitions.

Posted

[quote name='ironmonk' post='1396859' date='Oct 2 2007, 10:21 PM']Child please... lol... I am completely aware of the multiple meanings of the words.

Wow... not only do some people here need to learn to pay attention, they need to learn a small caveat of writing called [i][b]Context[/b][/i].

Here is a clue.... the question has NOTHING to do with politics.[/quote]
If this has nothing to do with politics, as you posit, then why are you using the definitions of the terms "conservative" and "liberal" that only have meaning within MODERN politics?

  • 3 weeks later...
hyperdulia again
Posted

"Is God Liberal Or Conservative?, when it comes to morallity"

Yes.

Posted
^_^ I've missed you Hyper.
hyperdulia again
Posted (edited)

*kisses*
*hugs*
:I can't find the smilie withall the hearts and stuff:

Edited by hyperdulia again

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