dairygirl4u2c Posted November 11, 2007 Posted November 11, 2007 to reiterate a point i made earlier. if you want to define as existance then i have no problem with that. just remember that it's proving next to nothing substantial. it's often just fluff so that theists can feel they've proven God. an i still stand by teh argumetn that the first cause cannot be proven, as i argued earlier and have not had substantially addressed yet. and, okhams razor isn't necessarily true in this case, i'm just saying it's usually teh right principle to apply so might be with the God argument. also, remember. if i were to argue for Gods existance, which i would do seeing as i believe in God, i'd use all the arguments you guys are making. my oinly point is the arguments would be circumstnatial and not definitive.
dairygirl4u2c Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 you say God is not more complex. unless God encompasses us, then anything beyond us is by definition more complex. it's extra.
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