Norseman82 Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Personally, whenever someone starts shouting oblivious to what's going on around him, I think he needs to be psychologically evaluated. [quote name='SanctitasDeo' post='1402174' date='Oct 14 2007, 01:49 AM']I don't know about official security, but we do get this sort of thing a lot, and there are people he would have to run over in between the doors and the rest of the temple.[/quote] That's where the KofC come in with their swords. But I wonder when the KofC will become up to date and start carrying assault rifles? (PaladinD and Ironmonk, I think you'll love that!)
Akalyte Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 [quote name='johnnydigit' post='1402207' date='Oct 14 2007, 03:36 AM']"Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouf?" "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. [size=4][b]And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you![/b][/size]." [img]http://members.lycos.nl/dalecooper/Pictures/Jules%20Winnfield.jpg[/img] [/quote] LOL
hyperdulia again Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 I've been converted. I'm leaving the Church...For Orthodox Judaism though... Thank you Preacha' Man!
SaintOlaf Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 I liked how the congregation just began singing "Hallelujah" Stuff like that can be very distracting, we had something similar happen at my parents Reformed Baptist church a number of years ago, just so incredibly distracting and crazy.... we ended the service after the person left, and just sang a few songs.
Mateo el Feo Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='SaintOlaf' post='1402481' date='Oct 14 2007, 08:19 PM']I liked how the congregation just began singing "Hallelujah" Stuff like that can be very distracting, we had something similar happen at my parents Reformed Baptist church a number of years ago, just so incredibly distracting and crazy.... we ended the service after the person left, and just sang a few songs.[/quote]I find it odd that Reformed Baptists would be targeted by this kind of tactic...then again, maybe my ignorance is showing. Is there a particular belief/practice (e.g. infant baptism, etc) that was being attacked?
"Kyrie eleison" Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 What is the appropriate thing to do when someone like this disrupts the mass. For a couple of minutes they let him yell and scream. Should the ushers have lead him out? What are we to do if this happens in our church/es?
abercius24 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Wow, that guy is so lucky he pulled that stunt at the right Church. If he did that at my old local parish, there would have been at least 3 big guys -- including my Dad -- bouncing his tush out the door quick!
friendofJPII Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) He was totally disrespectful...however I do wish some of our priests would preach the truth of the Catholic faith with only 1/2 his zeal and fervency. Edited October 15, 2007 by friendofJPII
slushpuppy Posted October 15, 2007 Author Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='MIkolbe' post='1402418' date='Oct 14 2007, 03:52 PM']I think XIX may mean the answer is so OBVIOUSLY no, what's the debate? At least, that's how I interpretted it. Next debate... is water wet? jk The preacher may need more saving than the ones he is 'trying' to save.[/quote] Well if you read the comments on Youtube, for many people the answer is yes.
slushpuppy Posted October 15, 2007 Author Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='Hashbrowns' post='1402436' date='Oct 14 2007, 04:29 PM']umm, is he wearing a collar?[/quote] Yeah, He is dressed like a priest with snappy suspenders.
Farsight one Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='slushpuppy' post='1402569' date='Oct 14 2007, 09:47 PM']Well if you read the comments on Youtube, for many people the answer is yes.[/quote] Well then I'll debate. I read every single comment made. In one of them, he claims that he has successfully converted one person, and gotten two others interested. Out of ALL of his preachings made throughout his lifetime(I seem to remember somewhere that he was 60ish), he has succesfully converted 3 people tops? That doesn't constitute successful to me. I've only been a real Christian for the last four-ish years, and I've got more conversions under my belt than him. Heck, I've got more atheist conversions than he does total. One cannot call what he does successful.
SaintOlaf Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1402496' date='Oct 14 2007, 09:13 PM']I find it odd that Reformed Baptists would be targeted by this kind of tactic...then again, maybe my ignorance is showing. Is there a particular belief/practice (e.g. infant baptism, etc) that was being attacked?[/quote] The person wandered into our church a few weeks earlier, and started some discussion with the pastor after the service... The pastor, upon seeing her this last time got very flustered, and she started making a scene, saying that we were "preaching ourselves to hell, with a gospel that none could live up to" she also yelled something about our whole church being nothing but a scam to make money. Not exactly the same thing I guess, but a disruptive outburst of ones feelings none-the-less.
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Mmmm I think that yelling at others is a very convincing way of getting them to belive you. Hey it works with little kids, bound to work with adults who have the attention span and maturity of one. Good for him.
XIX Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='Farsight one' post='1402612' date='Oct 14 2007, 11:21 PM']Well then I'll debate. I read every single comment made. In one of them, he claims that he has successfully converted one person, and gotten two others interested. Out of ALL of his preachings made throughout his lifetime(I seem to remember somewhere that he was 60ish), he has succesfully converted 3 people tops? That doesn't constitute successful to me. I've only been a real Christian for the last four-ish years, and I've got more conversions under my belt than him. Heck, I've got more atheist conversions than he does total. One cannot call what he does successful.[/quote] It's very hard for me to read about your conversions and not feel inadequate. That may be your fault or it may be mine, I dunno. But quite honestly, if somebody were to tell me that I would convert one person to Catholicism in my lifetime and get two others interested, I would totally sign up for that. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
SarahB Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Awww, don't feel that way. It's my belief that not all of us are meant for "converting". Some of us just plant the seed. That doesn't mean that our role in their conversion is any less though. It's ultimately God who does the converting. So, just make sure you are planting seeds any chance you get.
Ziggamafu Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Horrific. I grew up in the midst of that kind of fundy-anti-catholic atmosphere. I agree with St. Olaf (may his beard double in size), the response of the parish was awesome; THAT seemed more of a Holy Spirit thing than the Protestant's explosive behavior. ...now I just have to fight the urge to seek revenge by charging into a Baptist "church" and shout out Catholic apologetics...grr....
Justin86 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) I would like that guy to come onto a military base chapel and spew that stuff during a Mass with a bunch of Marines present. heh,heh. Edited October 15, 2007 by Justin86
Autumn Dusk Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 [quote]And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!.[/quote] MMMM vengence
Andreas E. Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 I was an usher at the last church I attended. During training we were told that one of our main functions (besides helping the congregation) was to protect the pastor if anybody got violent or disruptive. This would have been one of the scenarios to quietly lead the disruptor away. However, I do applaud the congregation's pious reaction.
Dismas Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Sure, saying the following would get a priest in big trouble with the bishop, but I suspect the "street preacher" would react interestingly, had the priest said this instead: [quote]I cast you out, unclean spirit, along with every Satanic power of the enemy, every spectre from hell, and all your fell companions; in the name of our Lord Jesus +Christ. Begone and stay far from this creature of God.+ For it is He who commands you, He who flung you headlong from the heights of heaven into the depths of hell. It is He who commands you, He who once stilled the sea and the wind and the storm. Hearken, therefore, and tremble in fear, Satan, you enemy of the faith, you foe of the human race, you begetter of death, you robber of life, you corrupter of justice, you root of all evil and vice; seducer of men, betrayer of the nations, instigator of envy, font of avarice, fomentor of discord, author of pain and sorrow. Why, then, do you stand and resist, knowing as you must that Christ the Lord brings your plans to nothing? Fear Him, who in Isaac was offered in sacrifice, in Joseph sold into bondage, slain as the paschal lamb, crucified as man, yet triumphed over the powers of hell.[/quote] Edited October 16, 2007 by Dismas
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