kateri05 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote]I think its the parents job to introduce the children to responsbile alcohol consumption. My older children always had a small glass of wine for the holiday meal.[/quote] couldn't agree more!
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I lived in a house open to alcohol. Got smashed quite a few times before I turned 15. I'm far more responsible about alcohol than my friends at my Uni. Well, most of the time...atleast I don't leave my room.
kateri05 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote]Got smashed quite a few times before I turned 15.[/quote] um, well THAT's not ok
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='kateri05' post='1402815' date='Oct 15 2007, 01:24 AM']um, well THAT's not ok [/quote] worked fine for me
kateri05 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 well, based on your posts RE: the catholic faith in open mic, i would disagree
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='kateri05' post='1402821' date='Oct 15 2007, 01:27 AM']well, based on your posts RE: the catholic faith in open mic, i would disagree [/quote] Thats really up to me, and not you. I quite enjoy who I am. I make it a game.
hyperdulia again Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 no you don't enjoy. your bitterness is clear from almost every post you've written. it's very sad. there are plently of happy atheists. you're not one of them. don't delude yourself.
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1402839' date='Oct 15 2007, 01:38 AM']no you don't enjoy. your bitterness is clear from almost every post you've written. it's very sad. there are plently of happy atheists. you're not one of them. don't delude yourself.[/quote] I choose my cynicism, I find others frustration a delight.
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1402846' date='Oct 15 2007, 01:44 AM']poor thing.[/quote] If thats your view, I feel bad for you
hyperdulia again Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I'm not being mean. I'm just sad for you. This is a great community, I'd hate to see you alienate everyone. We'll love you even if you don't believe in God, but basic human decency is a requirement of the place.
Autumn Dusk Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1402858' date='Oct 15 2007, 01:55 AM']I'm not being mean. I'm just sad for you. This is a great community, I'd hate to see you alienate everyone. We'll love you even if you don't believe in God, but basic human decency is a requirement of the place.[/quote] Aww cute, human decency a requirement, what a happy little place you have here. I'm glad you haven't met reality yet, its kicker. I'll have to do some soul-searching to see if I fit into your little club. BTW were's my good friend Budge, I miss her.
XIX Posted October 15, 2007 Author Posted October 15, 2007 Erm, you are kinda proving hyper's point with that last post.
kateri05 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 autumn, either start talking about minor's consuming alcohol in a debatey fashion or go start your own thread to be grumpy in. sheesh!
Mateo el Feo Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='XIX' post='1402871' date='Oct 15 2007, 02:19 AM']Erm, you are kinda proving hyper's point with that last post.[/quote]Exactly.
Archaeology cat Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) As others have said, in your own home, in the company of your parents, it is legal in most states (don't know if it is in all or not). My family started allowing me to have a little wine at dinner around the age of 14, and I've grown up with alcohol being served at all family functions. I never felt there was any great mystique about alcohol, since I had been taught to drink responsibly. But obviously this situation is still well within the law; breaking the law to drink alcohol, isn't really kosher. Edited October 15, 2007 by Archaeology cat
photosynthesis Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 For the most part, I only drank at family functions until I turned 21. There were a few times I went to parties in college, but I lived in Baltimore, the "Land of Pleasant Living" and all people drank was National Bohemian beer. Life is too short to drink bad beer--it wasn't worth the empty calories.
Aloysius Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Other threads have dealt with this topic in depth, anyway, my position is that it is indeed an unjust law, because it is outside of the proper authority of the state. The State does not have the authority to regulate my diet (or the diets of minors) or what I drink or do not drink. Re-read the catechism quotes: an unjust law is not just a law which makes you act contrary to the morality, it is a law which is not within the proper authority of the government.
IcePrincessKRS Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 [quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1402579' date='Oct 14 2007, 09:57 PM']1) the catechism is not infallible. 2) do you accuse the millions of Catholic lay people who joyously disregard the absurd puritanical "drinking laws" of this country of sin?[/quote] Maybe its only venial. 'Cause I gave Adrienne wine last night.
CatholicCid Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Aloysius' post='1402965' date='Oct 15 2007, 09:22 AM']Other threads have dealt with this topic in depth, anyway, my position is that it is indeed an unjust law, because it is outside of the proper authority of the state. The State does not have the authority to regulate my diet (or the diets of minors) or what I drink or do not drink. Re-read the catechism quotes: an unjust law is not just a law which makes you act contrary to the morality, it is a law which is not within the proper authority of the government.[/quote] So, in the end, it'll just break down into an argument on whether or not one believes that state has the authority to set a minimum age for alcohol assumption? That kind of takes the fun out of debating. Out of curiosity, would controlled illegal drug use and blood/alcohol levels fall into this same type of debate circle? Edited October 15, 2007 by CatholicCid
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