Birth Control

[hyperdulia again]

Well that's just propoganda!

It is about yummy nummy gummy birthcontraceptivebabystoppers for kids! Available in strawberry and grape flavors. Yummy!

[CatherineM]

When I was 11, all I wanted to do was play basketball and beat up boys. I can't imagine how hard it must be to raise a little girl these days.

[hyperdulia again]

It's beaver dam near impossible. The whole culture is screaming at girls that they must be sexualized. My nine year-old is the only girl at her CATHOLIC school that is not wearing makeup (a little lip gloss) and walking around half naked.

[Starets]

[quote name='Theoketos' post='1404328' date='Oct 17 2007, 02:36 PM']Birth control is neither about birth nor control.[/quote]
indeed. more like a way of preventing the practicing of lisence without a medicine

[hyperdulia again]

The birth control pill was invented by a daily communicant. Maybe I could invent the yummy nummy gummy birthcontraceptivebabystoppers for kids!

[Lil Red]

[quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1404365' date='Oct 17 2007, 01:38 PM']The birth control pill was invented by a daily communicant.[/quote]
do you have evidence for this?

[hyperdulia again]

well look it up (i don't mean that as witchy as it almost certainly sounds, i will look for it if you haven't found it in a few days)...

[Lil Red]

found it for others:

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rock_%28American_scientist%29"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rock_%28...an_scientist%29[/url]

[hyperdulia again]

Awesome Jess! i'm lazy. eh

[Lil Red]

well, you didn't have to tell me.

[EstoVir_TheWay_4]

[i]"Rock was profoundly disappointed by the 1968 release of the encyclical Humanae Vitae, which categorized oral contraceptives as immoral along with all other artificial methods of birth control"[/i]

Man, I would be disappointed too. Kind of ironic, really, all the stuff he was involved in even though he was a regular Sunday Catholic. It just goes to show that even regular mass goers can be influenced by the devil.

I wonder if he would have fed those pills to his 11 year old daughter.

Edited October 18, 2007 by EstoVir_TheWay_4

[Lil Red]

i'm so mad about this for several reasons.

1. so, okay, we're sterilizing our children at younger and younger of ages. yay!

2. do we really think that kids that young are going to follow all the medical advice while taking the pill: i.e. no smoking, etc.? especially if they are not under the care of a responsible adult? smoking while on the pill can lead to blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, etc.

3. so a school can't give children aspirin or other medication without written or oral parental consent, but we can give them doses of hormonal drugs? same thing with abortion - a minor cannot undergo surgery without parental consent except for abortion. yay choice!

4. contraception wasn't invented to prevent pregnancy - it was invented to indulge our desires without consequences (i.e. children). it was invented so that we would not have to control ourselves. so we are teaching our children that you do not need self-control. no wonder we have such a high obesity factor in children nowadays. if it's okay to have sex whenever you want however you want. and it's okay to stuff your face all the dang time!

there's more, but i'm mad!

Edited October 18, 2007 by Lil Red

[Lil Red]

another thing, do we really think that having young girls starting the pill at such a young age won't have an effect on them? especially if they continue on the pill for 8, 9, 10 or more years? we really don't think the hormones will have an effect, especially when the girls are still developing? gimme a break.

if this trend continues, i foresee a definite spike in fertility troubles and breast cancer troubles in about 20-30 years.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1404834' date='Oct 18 2007, 01:11 PM']i'm so mad about this for several reasons.

1. so, okay, we're sterilizing our children at younger and younger of ages. yay!

2. do we really think that kids that young are going to follow all the medical advice while taking the pill: i.e. no smoking, etc.? especially if they are not under the care of a responsible adult? smoking while on the pill can lead to blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, etc.

3. so a school can't give children aspirin or other medication without written or oral parental consent, but we can give them doses of hormonal drugs? same thing with abortion - a minor cannot undergo surgery without parental consent except for abortion. yay choice!

4. contraception wasn't invented to prevent pregnancy - it was invented to indulge our desires without consequences (i.e. children). it was invented so that we would not have to control ourselves. so we are teaching our children that you do not need self-control. no wonder we have such a high obesity factor in children nowadays. if it's okay to have sex whenever you want however you want, then it's okay to stuff your face all the dang time!

there's more, but i'm mad![/quote]


GO LIL RED!

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1404847' date='Oct 18 2007, 06:34 PM']another thing, do we really think that having young girls starting the pill at such a young age won't have an effect on them? especially if they continue on the pill for 8, 9, 10 or more years? we really don't think the hormones will have an effect, especially when the girls are still developing? gimme a break.

if this trend continues, i foresee a definite spike in fertility troubles and breast cancer troubles in about 20-30 years.[/quote]

Exactly. I can't even begin to say how angry I am when I think about how my doctor put me on the pill at 16, and I was on it for 8 years. At 16 I didn't know enough to question the doctor, so of course an 11-yr-old won't. Coming off the pill was horrendous, because my body no longer knew what to do with its own hormones (thankfully it didn't have a long-time effect on my fertility, as being 33 weeks pregnant proves ), but there were enough unpleasant effects on my body. And that's a good point about them still developing; girls that age are just hitting puberty, so I don't see how it [i]wouldn[/i]'t have an effect on them, even more than using the pill a bit later, perhaps.

And Red, I second your list of things in the previous post, too.

[hyperdulia again]

You're all brain washed. Children need contraceptive, they're like vitamins! Like wholesome yummy vitamins!

[Lil Red]

[hyperdulia again]

Well it's syill true. Imagine, a young girl with no contraceptives. What will happen to her? She will go through life uncontracepted and stuff.

[hyperdulia again]

Imagine if the mothers of teen mothers took contraceptives. There would be no teen mothers.

[kujo]

[quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1404246' date='Oct 17 2007, 01:35 PM']<sarcasm>But all girls should be on birth control pills when they're adolescents. It helps fight acne, so it's bound to boost their self-esteem!</sarcasm>[/quote]

Here's a thought.

And I'm sorry, in advance, if this offends anyone. Just musing...

What if God gave pre-teens and teenagers acne so we'd be self-conscious and NOT have sex? I mean, if everyone had big-ole zits on they're faces, perhaps we wouldn't be so close and hot and heavy and what not.

Could be, right?