The Great Monarch Of Catholic Prophecy

[abercius24]

I guess I'd be interested in hearing about this prophecy, but I personally do not give very much weight to those who discuss the prophecies given by the saints. Prophecy is very tricky in its interpretation, and only the Church on a Universal and Solemn basis can really give proper guidance to that interpretation process. And as a general rule, the Church doesn't delve into much of a discussion on the prophecies of the saints. Most discussion comes from smaller, isolated groups whom I find to be rather radical and inflamatory in their use of such prophecies. Too much speculation makes for bad teaching and dangerous religious practice. I would like to see the Church as a whole begin a more thorough discussion on this basis, but until then I prefer to sit as a spectator in that sport if I choose to involve myself at all.

Edited October 19, 2007 by abercius24

[kafka]

prophecy is difficult to intrepret and speculate on. It takes time. It takes hours of prayerful reading of Sacred Scripture, help from private revelation and a certain wisdom. Ultimately prophecy is meant to enlighten and comfort those who live during the Tribulation, since in those times there will be severe sufferings and evil on earth especially for the faithful.

[Autumn Dusk]

i will be happy if the world ends, it would be nice

[mortify]

Well Kafka, I would be interested

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='abercius24' post='1405718' date='Oct 19 2007, 08:45 PM']I guess I'd be interested in hearing about this prophecy, but I personally do not give very much weight to those who discuss the prophecies given by the saints. Prophecy is very tricky in its interpretation, and only the Church on a Universal and Solemn basis can really give proper guidance to that interpretation process. And as a general rule, the Church doesn't delve into much of a discussion on the prophecies of the saints. Most discussion comes from smaller, isolated groups whom I find to be rather radical and inflamatory in their use of such prophecies. Too much speculation makes for bad teaching and dangerous religious practice. I would like to see the Church as a whole begin a more thorough discussion on this basis, but until then I prefer to sit as a spectator in that sport if I choose to involve myself at all.[/quote]
Kindly read "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch, catholic theologian who regularly appears on EWTN, and in fact did a whole series on Catholic teaching and the endtimes. He discusses the prophecies in great detail.

[Dismas]

No, no, and no.

Don't get me wrong, I think that we must be prepared for our Judgment at all times, cause you never know. So, being prepared is important.

I also believe it is very important that Catholics have a good sense of history, that they may recognize and prepare for bad times and good alike. If we are to face the Antichrist tomorrow, it doesn't make our courage any less if we face with principled determination against enemies of the Church that precede him.

[Justin86]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1406904' date='Oct 22 2007, 12:22 PM']No, no, and no.

Don't get me wrong, I think that we must be prepared for our Judgment at all times, cause you never know. So, being prepared is important.

I also believe it is very important that Catholics have a good sense of history, that they may recognize and prepare for bad times and good alike. If we are to face the Antichrist tomorrow, it doesn't make our courage any less if we face with principled determination against enemies of the Church that precede him.[/quote]
Agreed.

Btw, isn't "the Great Monarch" also supposed to finish the Christian conquest of the Holy Land and defeat Islam once and for all? If that's true, I must say that would be quite a turn around for France.

[kafka]

looks like there are some genuinely interested in this subject. My book will be published in a few months, and I'll offer a freedownload for those interested sometime next year.

[kafka]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1406883' date='Oct 21 2007, 09:30 PM']Kindly read "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch, catholic theologian who regularly appears on EWTN, and in fact did a whole series on Catholic teaching and the endtimes. He discusses the prophecies in great detail.[/quote]

I've heard he has come up with a few good insights, but I've never read it myself. My book focuses primarily on new insights into the Great Monarch, his life and times.

[Hashbrowns]

I agree with Dismas, I just want to be ready.

[Winchester]

[quote name='kafka' post='1407445' date='Oct 22 2007, 06:11 PM']My book focuses primarily on new insights into the Great Monarch, his life and times.[/quote]
You mean the Burger King?

[kafka]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1419956' date='Nov 15 2007, 05:26 PM']You mean the Burger King?[/quote]

I like to jest, but I assure you this is no laughing matter

[KnightofChrist]

Speaking of prophecy of the end times all together its sad many catholics dont really care for learning it. Often I believe, it is because protestants think so highly of it. So catholics rejection of end times seems to be more of a anti-protestant position than anything.

We fail to know the most important things. Not when is Christ returning but how. Most Catholics can not correctly answer the following questions.

When Christ does return how will you know its really Him and not Satan pretending to be Christ?

Is the Book of the Apocalypse really prophetic for all times or just a symbolic book for the people of its time?

Edited November 19, 2007 by KnightofChrist

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='kafka' post='1407445' date='Oct 22 2007, 07:11 PM']I've heard he has come up with a few good insights, but I've never read it myself. My book focuses primarily on new insights into the Great Monarch, his life and times.[/quote]
I suggest you read it, he did an entire series on EWTN on the subject:)

[Winchester]

[quote name='kafka' post='1419961' date='Nov 15 2007, 05:40 PM']I like to jest, but I assure you this is no laughing matter[/quote]
It's not a sin to mock evil, and certainly not to pretend Jesus's admonition that we know not the hour was anything less but truth. There are no peculiarly Catholic prophecies that I am required to believe, nor must I worry about any king but Christ. The antichrists may all go to hell.

If God is with us, who can stand against?

[KnightofChrist]

But we are required to believe in Catholic prophecies of canonical Scripture, namely the book of the Apocalypse. As for private prophecies we can not quickly reject them, or speak disrespectful of the prophecy or of the prophet when they are trustworthy, namely Saints canonized by Holy Mother Church.

If we believe we have nothing to worry about when it comes to the Anti-Christ we are sadly mistaken.

[color="#FF0000"]For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ: and they will [b]seduce many.[/b][/color]


Worried for uneducated souls. If people read their whole bibles with the true Catholic understanding, they could not and would not be seduced by Satan, and other false prophets.

[Winchester]

God knows what is in our hearts. Merely being fooled is not enough to beaver dam you. I think He's got a lock on human frailty. Intent plays a role in sin that even the actor sometimes cannot fathom.

Revelation has happened is happening and will happen.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1422875' date='Nov 20 2007, 01:45 PM']God knows what is in our hearts. Merely being fooled is not enough to beaver dam you. I think He's got a lock on human frailty. Intent plays a role in sin that even the actor sometimes cannot fathom.

Revelation has happened is happening and will happen.[/quote]


I dont quite understand what you are saying. Could someone be seduced by the Anti-Christ, thinking the he was Christ and still not be damned?

If that is what is being said, that is highly doubtful.

Edited November 21, 2007 by KnightofChrist

[Winchester]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1423144' date='Nov 20 2007, 11:45 PM']I dont quite understand what you are saying. Could someone be seduced by the Anti-Christ, thinking the he was Christ and still not be damned?

If that is what is being said, that is highly doubtful.[/quote]
What are the three requirements for one to be culpable for a mortal sin?

[kafka]

leave it to you to bump this fossil of a thread Winnie