catholicinsd Posted October 19, 2007 Author Posted October 19, 2007 Again a state school averages about $10,000 less than FUS annual tution. This is 10 grand that could serve the poor, not only at the bottom of the hill, but around the world.
Hashbrowns Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 Okay, you go to a state school and give 10 grand to serve the homeless. I will go to Steubenville and spend time with the blessed Sacrament every day. We'll see who serves better.
catholicinsd Posted October 19, 2007 Author Posted October 19, 2007 Most state also have Newman Center, where you could visit Jesus daily.
Lil Red Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405540' date='Oct 19 2007, 01:29 PM']Again a state school averages about $10,000 less than FUS annual tution. This is 10 grand that could serve the poor, not only at the bottom of the hill, but around the world.[/quote] way to ignore the majority of what micah said. but this is how you like to 'debate', so i'm not surprised.
ardillacid Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405540' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:29 PM']Again a state school averages about $10,000 less than FUS annual tution. This is 10 grand that could serve the poor, not only at the bottom of the hill, but around the world.[/quote] Most state schools receive buckets of cash from the gov, which is why they are cheaper.
Hashbrowns Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) have you ever been to Steubenville? Did you know that for a long time there was *FREE* housing offered on campus? The only reason it's not free anymore is because now the school owns it and wants a little bit of help renovating it and making sure that it's not just full of crack houses. Thank you very much for bashing my home. And there's a pretty big difference between a Newman center and a chapel of perpetual adoration. Not just a chapel but one in EVERY DORM. Edited October 19, 2007 by Hashbrowns
Lil Red Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405545' date='Oct 19 2007, 01:35 PM']Most state also have Newman Center, where you could visit Jesus daily.[/quote]and i would say that many state schools do NOT have a Newman Center. get off your high horse, catholicinsd, and how about YOU do something to help out.
catholicinsd Posted October 19, 2007 Author Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='Lil Red' post='1405548' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:38 PM']way to ignore the majority of what micah said. but this is how you like to 'debate', so i'm not surprised.[/quote] Yes, but this a major issue, which he failed to address.
XIX Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='XIX' post='1405515' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:53 PM']State schools are just as expensive as other schools. It's just that we pay in taxes, not just tuition. But they require just as much money as private schools.[/quote] [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405540' date='Oct 19 2007, 04:29 PM']Again a state school averages about $10,000 less than FUS annual tution. This is 10 grand that could serve the poor, not only at the bottom of the hill, but around the world.[/quote] Obviously you aren't a very good listener. CinSD, in all charity, I truly fear that you are stooping to a new low with your Steubenville trashing.
catholicinsd Posted October 19, 2007 Author Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='Hashbrowns' post='1405556' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:47 PM']so, what did *you* do with your 10 grand?[/quote] I don't have ten grand at the moment. However if I did then the poor would benefit.
Hashbrowns Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 As to what I did with my 10 grand, if I feel that my vocation is in Steubneville, then to Steubenville I will go.
Maggyie Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 Education is expensive, man. My kid brother goes to a state school - Miami in Oxford, Ohio - and the tuition is $23,000. State residents get a hefty residency scholarship, but still. And that's with the fellas in Columbus helping out. Many state schools are operating at a deficit and are boosting their tuition fees. My alma mater raised tuition 18% by the time I graduated Who cares, anyway? Nobody forces anyone to go to Steubie. Should no one go there? Or to other expensive schools? How do we justify a Harvard education, a Dartmouth education, a Notre Dame education? Should we pull down Yale and distribute the saved tuition money to the poor? In ten years, the poor would still be with us.
catholicinsd Posted October 19, 2007 Author Posted October 19, 2007 I wanna know have it feels to write that check at registration after driving through the town.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405540' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:29 PM']Again a state school averages about $10,000 less than FUS annual tution. This is 10 grand that could serve the poor, not only at the bottom of the hill, but around the world.[/quote] Again, a state school costs just as much, it's just that the government subsidizes the cost. If FUS became a state school to lower their tuition (since the operating cost would remain the same), they would not be able to have theology or a number of other courses and then no one would be trained to evangelize. Sometimes good things cost money. I'm sorry, but that's simply the way things are. It is more important that the poor hear the Gospel than that they receive money. Jesus told people to go and give everything to the poor and that is important, but as regarded His own practices, it was a Messianic sign that "the poor have the good news proclaimed to them" (Luke 7:22), so I'd consider that more important. If I have to pay $23,000/year to get the education I need to do that, then I'm going to pay it. I don't understand why you have completely overlooked all my points about the good work FUS does in its local community and elsewhere. I think it's very rude for you to make accusations without backing them up. [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405545' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:35 PM']Most state also have Newman Center, where you could visit Jesus daily.[/quote] I think most Newman Centers don't have perpetual or even frequent adoration.
Hashbrowns Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 It feels crappy writing that check, driving through town or not. I'm going to Steubenville, and do you know how much financial aid i got? nothing. And my brothers and sisters are going to a Catholic school at home. Oh, and lookie, it's more expensive for them to go to a Catholic school than the public school. A LOT more. And there are slums and ghetos there, too. But i would be severly *ticked* if my parents decided that it was more important to give money to the poor than to give their children a good Catholic education.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405570' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:56 PM']I wanna know have it feels to write that check at registration after driving through the town.[/quote] Hmmm...supporting the education of a catechist who can then go out and preach the Gospel to the poor...it felt pretty good. Of course, I didn't write a check...I took out loans. Catholicinsd, you're on thin ice. You're not debating, you're just making inflammatory statements about a good and well-respected, generous school known internationally for leadership in service to the poor.
catholicinsd Posted October 19, 2007 Author Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='Raphael' post='1405572' date='Oct 19 2007, 03:57 PM']Sometimes good things cost money. I'm sorry, but that's simply the way things are. It is more important that the poor hear the Gospel than that they receive money. Jesus told people to go and give everything to the poor and that is important, but as regarded His own practices, it was a Messianic sign that "the poor have the good news proclaimed to them" (Luke 7:22), so I'd consider that more important. If I have to pay $23,000/year to get the education I need to do that, then I'm going to pay it. I don't understand why you have completely overlooked all my points about the good work FUS does in its local community and elsewhere. I think it's very rude for you to make accusations without backing them up. I think most Newman Centers don't have perpetual or even frequent adoration.[/quote] While the Gospel is important, It doesn't nourish the body. If the school the has done alot, as you claim then why was the campus bugalarized?
Paddington Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1405578' date='Oct 19 2007, 06:33 PM']If the school the has done alot, as you claim then why was the campus bugalarized?[/quote] Why was Christ crucified? He must not have done enough good deeds.
Hashbrowns Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 "Chapter 1: Necessity Why Praying is more important than eating Eating keeps your body alive, and prayer keeps your soul alive. Praying is more important than eating because your soul is more important than your body." Peter Kreeft, [u]Prayer For Beginners[/u]. Ignatius Press, San Francisco. 2000.
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