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[cmotherofpirl]

especially since Catholics have never considered Mary divine...

[MIKolbe]

Good point, CMom...

It never ceases to amaze me how many non-catholics simply assume this or refuse to believe me when I advise them to the contrary. I mean, I am kinda in the unique postion to know what I actually believe.

I was at a wedding for my sister-in-law, and somehow the altar call or witnessing part of the 'worship service' had a young man sitting next to me asking me if I had accepted Jesus into my heart. I answered in the affirmative, and added that i had accepted him on my tongue and in my stomach and in my soul; at which point he asked if i was Catholic. I said yes, and he proceeded to 'warn' me not to worship Mary. At which point I offered him my Miraculous Medal, and suggested he read and pray on John 2:5.

He was just sure I worshipped Mary, though he did not even know me.

[cmotherofpirl]

I really get annoyed when people try to tell me what I believe and why. The sheep comment drives me to hysteria, considering how when you get 2 catholics together you always have 3 opinions...

[Pleural]

Hey -- he said it, not me.

[MIKolbe]

you lost me.

explain.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Pleural' post='1417738' date='Nov 11 2007, 04:30 PM']Thanks for clarifying this critical point of Catholic theology.[/quote]
Oops! That was supposed to read "Mary's perpetual [b]virginity[/b]."
That'll teach me to try to type after 11:00 pm!

[cmotherofpirl]

thats what happens when you stay up past your bedtime...

[Socrates]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1417987' date='Nov 11 2007, 11:22 PM'] thats what happens when you stay up past your bedtime...[/quote]
Thank you, Mom.

["Kyrie eleison"]

"...Catholics have long revered her, but now Protestants are finding their own reasons to celebreate the mother of Jesus."
Here are some excerpts of the article:

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...Beverly Gavena, a [protestant] professor of New Testament literature at Princeton, has portrayed Mary as the victim of[b] "a Protestant conspiracy of silence: theologically, liturgically and devotionally" [/b]

... Most Protestants can identify with the experience of Kathleen Norris, an author who has writen of her upbringing ... [b]"We dragged Mary out at Christmas ...and...packed her safely in the crèche box for the rest of the year. We...denied [her] place in Christian tradition and were disdainful of the reverence displayed for her, so public and emotional, by Catholics[/b]."

...In a shift whose ideological breadth is unusual in the fragmented Protestant world, a long-standing wall around Mary appears to be eroding. It is not that Protestants are converting [b]... rather a[/b][b] growing number of "Christian thinkers" who are neither Catholic nor Eastern Orthodox have concluded that their 'various traditions' have 'short-changed' her in the very arena in which Protestantism most prides itself: the careful and full reading of Scripture. (Time Magazine cover story March 21, 2005, pg. 48-55) [/b]

Catholics think it is unbiblical to assume Mary's special ministry ended when Jesus was born. The Bible shows that Mary was very active in the life of the Church after Jesus was born and even after He died.
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Among many other things are they short changed....

Edited November 12, 2007 by "Kyrie eleison"

["Kyrie eleison"]

I was once on Budge's board and I couldn't believe that the posters believed that Jael was more blessed than Mary the mother of Jesus.

Judges 5:24

"Most blessed of women is Jael, The wife of Heber the Kenite; Most blessed is she of women in the tent.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)



They would rather pay respects to Jael than to Blessed Mary, they wanted nothing to do with Mary.

[Pleural]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1417982' date='Nov 11 2007, 10:17 PM']Oops! That was supposed to read "Mary's perpetual [b]virginity[/b]."
That'll teach me to try to type after 11:00 pm![/quote]

Freudian slip

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='"Kyrie eleison' post='1418138' date='Nov 12 2007, 12:07 PM']I was once on Budge's board and I couldn't believe that the posters believed that Jael was more blessed than Mary the mother of Jesus.

Judges 5:24

"Most blessed of women is Jael, The wife of Heber the Kenite; Most blessed is she of women in the tent.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)

They would rather pay respects to Jael than to Blessed Mary, they wanted nothing to do with Mary.[/quote]
They also forgot Mary came after Jael...

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1418220' date='Nov 12 2007, 03:35 PM']They also forgot Mary came after Jael...[/quote]
touche!