1957 Vs 2007

[cmotherofpirl]

SCHOOL -1957 vs. 2007



Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.



Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.



Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.



Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.



Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.

2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.



Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.



Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

[PapaHilarious]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1409579' date='Oct 26 2007, 06:45 AM']2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.[/quote]

[i]Only[/i] five years of therapy? That implies Johnny would be made well or something. Let's try a [i]lifetime[/i].

Can you believe [i]Green Eggs and Ham[/i] is from 1957? I was just reading it last night to our pre-born and noticed the copyright date. I wonder how it would sound today...

[size=3][quote]I do not like green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
But you can like them. That's fine for you.
You can do what you want to.
No time to judge, so go to bed.
Sleep well Sam, 'cause God is dead.[/quote][/size]

[rachael]

my dad is turning 50 this year. maybe i should show this to him to make him feel older.

[scardella]

2007 seems a little exaggerated, but way too close to the mark...

[Lounge Daddy]

I sadly agree with everything except, I think the kid would be diagnosed for ADD first, and then medicated

And the female teacher would be given a break for being an attractive female teacher accused of molesting a male student, as opposed to when a male teacher is accused of molesting a female student resulting in people threatening to lynch him.

Edited October 26, 2007 by Lounge Daddy

[Autumn Dusk]

Then again, children in 1957 went to school, there wasn't such notions as "altertinitve" schools or other problem ways of schooling where all sorts of things happen to kids to screw them up.

Yes, these are examples of 2007 gone to far but people can damage thier kid in plain sight far better becuase of the way society is set up these days

In 1957 kids had two parents, genrally, who were married to eachother and one of each gender.

In 1957 women were expected to be mothers, nuns, nurses, teachers or secretaries, nothing more.

Its give and take.

[CatholicCid]

The kids from the 1957 scenario's are the ones who setup the system for 2007 aren't they?

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='CatholicCid' post='1409698' date='Oct 26 2007, 03:26 PM']The kids from the 1957 scenario's are the ones who setup the system for 2007 aren't they?[/quote]

See, that makes too much sense. It's more logical that all those kids were abducted by aliens and replaced by clones implanted with Liberal DNA.

I've made the same point about the kids who were raised in the 1950s Catholic Church being the same people who liberalized everything in the 60s and 70s. Apparently that connection doesn't occur to those who wish we could go back to the "good ol' days." Personally, I think Catholics were just as liberal in the 50s as they were in the 70s or today. Only difference is liturgical changes exposed the termites that had been eating away at the lumber for a long time.

Not that this thread has anything to do with that... I just like expressing my opinion sometimes

Edited October 26, 2007 by LouisvilleFan

[Aloysius]

I think you all miss a tremendous sociological point by saying that. It is clear to me that the way the kids in '57 were raised did not lead to their rebellion and liberalization. The 60's were a period of rebellion against all things traditional. The rebellion happened because of our society and our market, it tempted them away from the traditional values towards unfettered licence for pleasure in order to exploit them. The parents who raised their kids traditionally did not know how to raise them against such a vast media onslaught of temptation, they rasied them on more simple moral terms; so when the mass market media machine got into full swing, the kids were not properly prepared to resist that temptation, it was all that much easier for the media and market to portray the past as simplistic and outdated.

Catholics certainly were not as liberal in the 50's as they are today; they were not all saints, but they had a strong conservative/traditional streak in them. Just because an effecient media-market machine tore through those traditional values does not make the way the parents were raising them any less solid.

Hey, the mass media market machine is currently ripping through Arab/Islamic culture, which was much more conservative/traditional/homogenous than we were in the 50's. It's doing a tremendous job of disconnecting the kids from their past by making them pawns in the market.

Anyway, it's not an alien clone influence, but it is a radical rebellion coming out of the mass media and market, not a fault in the old simpler system. That's what this is all about, the system was permitted to be much simpler and less confusing and disorienting back then that it is now; the reason it's made to be much more complicated and disorienting now? to disconnect us from traditional values so that we are susceptible to our appetites (which traditional values were designed to curb)

way off subject, the simple point made by this article is that they had more common sense in '57 and they do not have common sense in '07 and didn't go around treating every situation equally just to be fair, but rather looked at the context of every situation. take the example of the hunting rifle, for instance; it's ridiculous, stupid, and unnecessary to treat a kid that you know is a hunter who has a rifle for that purpose the same way you'd treat a nutjob who came to school to shoot people up; people act as if it would destroy the whole system to evaluate each situation individually and decide based on the circumstances, so they introduce these ridiculous "zero tolerance" policies. it's nonsensical.

[hyperdulia again]

1957 student raped by teacher. Teacher assigned to another school. Student called whore.

2007 teacher goes to jail. Student gets counseling.

[MissScripture]

Way to go Hyper! Just ruin this perfectly good nostalgia we had going!

[Aloysius]

[quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1409757' date='Oct 26 2007, 06:13 PM']1957 student raped by teacher. Teacher assigned to another school. Student called whore.

2007 teacher goes to jail. Student gets counseling.[/quote]
it'd be nice if 2007 actually happened that way.

statistically, there were less teachers committing rape of students, but less accountability too, you're right about that.

statistically, nowadays, there are more teachers committing rape of students now, but more accountability. but not that much more, the school systems just move people around for the most part now. it's only the ones that start to get media attention that the teachers actually get fired.

now, those statistics could be contested, but I'd bet dollars to donuts it'd add up. sexual deviancy was present in the 50's as well, but it has skyrocketed according to all sociological estimations.

[hyperdulia again]

i would not trust those stats. more rapes being reported now does not mean more are happening now.

[hyperdulia again]

1957 racist closed society

2007 open pluralistic society

[Noel's angel]

Over here it would be:
Teacher rapes student, gets sent to court, gets told to buy pupil a new bicycle and is set free (yes, this did happen, although it wasn't a teacher)