Moderates Moderately Use Moderate Religion

[Socrates]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1410870' date='Oct 28 2007, 09:00 PM']"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" ~ Obi Wan Kenobi (in his better days)[/quote]
Relativist.

[jeffpugh]

At a first glance, yes, but I think Obi Wan meant something else (in his better days)... I think the "absolutes" were taking things the way a Pharisee would. That is, stick by the rules absolutely in order to gain something for themselves... sorta like the Lawful Evil alignment... Anyways, maybe I'm reading into Obi Wan's better days too much.

[edit]From my statement above, I think there is evidence of me playing too many computer games

Edited October 29, 2007 by Sacred Music Man

[hoosieranna]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1410884' date='Oct 28 2007, 09:32 PM'][edit]From my statement above, I think there is evidence of me playing too many computer games [/quote]

Yup.



Sometimes a person is moderate because their views on various issues balance out that way. I'd be one of those, though I'm not rearing to go for a cage death match.

[Justin86]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1410884' date='Oct 29 2007, 12:32 PM']At a first glance, yes, but I think Obi Wan meant something else (in his better days)... I think the "absolutes" were taking things the way a Pharisee would. That is, stick by the rules absolutely in order to gain something for themselves... sorta like the Lawful Evil alignment... Anyways, maybe I'm reading into Obi Wan's better days too much.[/quote]
Or maybe you're just reading too much into a movie?

[Everything in Moderation]

EVERYTHING in moderation, that includes moderation in moderation; and be moderate about putting moderation in moderation, don't put all of your moderation in moderation. And be moderate about being moderate about putting moderation in moderation... which really just adds up to being extremely moderate, in a moderate way

[Dismas]

For anyone who wishes to learn about the Moderate mindset, I would suggest reading G. K. Chesterton's [b][u]The Ball and the Cross[/u][/b].

As for what I think of the Moderate mindset, well, it's summed up here:
[quote]15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot. I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 But because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth.[/quote]
[size=1][i]Note: I prefer the Douay-Rheims use of "vomit" over the euphemistic "spew" used in the RSV-CE. [/i][/size]

Edited October 29, 2007 by Dismas

[Socrates]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1410884' date='Oct 28 2007, 09:32 PM']At a first glance, yes, but I think Obi Wan meant something else (in his better days)... I think the "absolutes" were taking things the way a Pharisee would. That is, stick by the rules absolutely in order to gain something for themselves... sorta like the Lawful Evil alignment... Anyways, maybe I'm reading into Obi Wan's better days too much.

[edit]From my statement above, I think there is evidence of me playing too many computer games [/quote]
Obi-Wan's better days were when he was played by Alec Guiness, rather than Ewan McGregor.

[Socrates]

I find this thread moderately amusing.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1411199' date='Oct 29 2007, 06:22 PM']For anyone who wishes to learn about the Moderate mindset, I would suggest reading G. K. Chesterton's [b][u]The Ball and the Cross[/u][/b].

As for what I think of the Moderate mindset, well, it's summed up here:

[size=1][i]Note: I prefer the Douay-Rheims use of "vomit" over the euphemistic "spew" used in the RSV-CE. [/i][/size][/quote]
I see your point. But I think it is said that all things in moderation except when it comes to worshiping and following the Lord. I think thats where things get hot/cold.

[Justin86]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1410873' date='Oct 29 2007, 12:04 PM']Relativist.[/quote]
You don't understand it's the job of the Jedi to "return balance to the Force..."

[dairygirl4u2c]

i think there are at least three types of moderats you should note.

the first, is the wishy washy ones. they just are too lazy or spineless to research and take a stand.

the second, is most political writers of historical scholarship. conservative v. liberal are modern values, in no way indicative of truth, necessarily. probability wise, todays cons and liberals are just a random snippet of history, and tomarrows will think their versions are the truth. so, to the current standard of conservative v. liberal, most writers etc did not fall on the end of the spectrum, and would be called moderate by many standards. even though their views were often radical in their time, or at least in their own right irrespective of the party's of their time.

the third, i guess could be part of the second as per knowledge and motives. it's anyone with a brain that sees beyond the rhetoric of right and left, and have firm views in their beliefs, and realize nuance and that things depend on the situation, facts matter. these people are not the same as the people in the first group. different knowledge and motives entirely.

[dairygirl4u2c]

it's hot says liberal. it's cold says the conservative. wait, isn't the reality that it's 80 degrees and lukewarm? am i a mindless moderate to say it's lukewarm?

the animal is a male says the conservative. it's a female says the liberal. wait, doesn't it depend on its chromosomes and genitalia? must be a crazy moderate huh.

this is all why i prefer "other" as opposed to moderate. now, if you want to start a thread for "others" by all means. i think it's a harder group to pin down though as the beliefs are so varying.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1410865' date='Oct 28 2007, 07:53 PM']Being "moderate" is overrated. Usually just means a liberal who's afraid to call himself one, or someone afraid to take a real stance.

You know what happens to the balls of the man who straddles the fence.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" ~ Sen. Barry Goldwater, 1964 (in his better days)[/quote]
You're definition of a moderate is someone who is wishy washy. Mine is someone who doesnt base their choices on whether it's liberal or conservative, rather, they deal with each thing separately and forms an opinion on each.

I take real stances on everything, thank you very much.