The Sspx

[KnightofChrist]

[url="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410"]Cardinal Castrillón: SSPX not in schismCatholics who attend SSPX masses not schismatic[/url]

[url="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070807"]SSPX in schism? You can believe Fr. Newman... or you can believe the Church[/url]

[url="http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2006/03/ecclesia-dei-sspx-priests-and-faithful.html"]Ecclesia Dei: SSPX priests and faithful are not "excommunicates"[/url]

[qfnol31]

Pope has supreme authority in those matters, an authority flowing directly from Christ and not given by Canon Law or Council. It is just spelled out by a Council.

Ergo, no one can disagree with his judgments according to the Catholic Tradition.

I'm taking a class on Ecclesiology, and I can tell you that this has been something that the Church determined well before Vatican I.

[qfnol31]

Plus it is the Bishops which matters.

What they teach is not in accord with the Church's tradition, or anything outside of the years 1800-1935.

[Resurrexi]

Bump.

P.S. I would now marriages presided over and confessions heard by SSPX priests are invalid, whereas, earlier in the thread, I stated I didn't understand why, now I do

BTW, if I recall correctly, the priests of the SSPX are excommunicated as well, but by by latae sententiae, and not by [i]Ecclesia Dei adflicta[/i].

Edited August 24, 2008 by StThomasMore

[Justin86]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1636497' date='Aug 24 2008, 06:00 PM']BTW, if I recall correctly, the priests of the SSPX are excommunicated as well, but by by latae sententiae, and not by [i]Ecclesia Dei adflicta[/i].[/quote]
That doesn't make them any more sympathetic. Politicians who claim to be Catholic, but vote for abortion are excommunicated under latae sententiae as well.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Justin86' post='1636510' date='Aug 24 2008, 06:04 AM']That doesn't make them any more sympathetic.[/quote]

Did I ever say it did? BTW, does anyone know if Greek Orthodox priests are actually canonically excommunicated?

In any case, the thing is, I fail to see why Eastern Christians who claim to be in communion with the Holy Father can nearly any dogma they want (so long as it wasn't defined by one of the first seven Ecumenical Councils), and they don't nearly get as much criticism as, say, someone who adheres to the SSPX's rejection of many of the doctrines taught by the Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican.

Edited August 24, 2008 by StThomasMore

[goldenchild17]

[Majella]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1455468' date='Feb 5 2008, 10:23 AM'][url="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410"]Cardinal Castrillón: SSPX not in schismCatholics who attend SSPX masses not schismatic[/url]

[url="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070807"]SSPX in schism? You can believe Fr. Newman... or you can believe the Church[/url]

[url="http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2006/03/ecclesia-dei-sspx-priests-and-faithful.html"]Ecclesia Dei: SSPX priests and faithful are not "excommunicates"[/url][/quote]

The priests of the SSPX don't have "Ordinary Jurisdiction" (under the local bishop), but administer the Sacraments with "Extraordinary Jurisdiction". They seem to adhere to the Church-teaching of the last hundreds of years, I can't find any new doctrines or ideas in their writings.
A large number of Cardinals have been quietly saying for years that they are not schismatic , excommunicated, and are a part of our beloved Church.
Some people appear to have more charitable feelings for Protestants then for fellow-Catholics!
Let's pray for unity!