Coulter: Would Vote Clinton Over Mccain

[Lounge Daddy]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc"]VIDEO[/url]

She's on Hannity & Colmes. Alan asks no questions, only throws up his arms and declares that his work is finished.

[nleyetn]

I can't believe what she's saying, did hell freeze over?

[RemnantRules]

[premed_jakey]

[quote name='nLEyETn' post='1454151' date='Feb 1 2008, 02:29 PM']I can't believe what she's saying, did hell freeze over?[/quote]

I literally felt the ground beneath me when she said that. It was the craziest thing. I wish (hope) that it wasnt just another media/political game, even though im not her biggest fan.

Thank goodness she didnt wear her skimpy black dress this time!

Oh, and Alans response was awesome.

[XIX]

Bah. I don't take Ann Coulter seriously.

[Dismas]

[quote name='nLEyETn' post='1454151' date='Feb 1 2008, 02:29 PM']I can't believe what she's saying, did hell freeze over?[/quote]
It makes sense in a way. McCain would turn the GOP into a faint shadow of the DNC. As he would no longer by shackled to the litmus test on abortion by the people of Arizona, I doubt he would keep any pro-life principles as well. He has been quoted using pro-abortion language and euphemistic slogans.

In the end, its better to lose four years than forty. This is quite likely her reasoning.

Edited February 1, 2008 by Dismas

[XIX]

"Better to lose four years than forty."

That's an excellent line.

[nleyetn]

It is hard to say what he would do if he became president but there is still more hope of him being pro life than there is of Hillary. And I would trust him to handle our national security more than any other candidate. He still isn't the candidate I want but I'd vote for the lesser of two evils if it came down to it. For Coulter to say she'd actually campaign for Hillary is just unbelievable, I'm just hoping she was saying it to try and give a wake up call to Republican voters out there.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1454189' date='Feb 1 2008, 05:22 PM']It makes sense in a way. McCain would turn the GOP into a faint shadow of the DNC.[/quote]

I do agree with her points, too. I was complaining to my wife of the exact same thing a few days ago. McCain is not only completely dishonest, he's not even good at being dishonest.

McCain claims to support a number of things, yet has legislation with his name on it that works for the opposite. Additionally he makes repeated comments that go against everything conservative; such as grumbling about Mitt Romney actually making money, and grumbling about people that wear their conservatism on their sleeve (as McCain complained about Justice Alito).

I actually believe that Clinton is more forthcoming on where she stands than McCain is.
Both Clinton and McCain support keeping the troops engaged with the enemy is the Middle East; yet Clinton doesn't talk about all the things that she wouldn't do to win the war, like McCain does. Clinton hasn't spent a lot of time taking options off the table during a time of war.

If Clinton were pro-life, I'd consider voting for her over McCain too. (let me emphasize the word "consider")

If McCain wins the nomination, I will be seriously considering other options for November.

[Deb]

All I can say about Ann Coulter is.......watch this:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7MR5_v47w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7MR5_v47w[/url]

[color="#ff0000"]**WARNING** DO NOT WATCH IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY PROFANITY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UNSAVORY WORDS IN THIS*****

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[Norseman82]

Two words: blond moment.

[Norseman82]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1454189' date='Feb 1 2008, 04:22 PM']It makes sense in a way. McCain would turn the GOP into a faint shadow of the DNC. As he would no longer by shackled to the litmus test on abortion by the people of Arizona, I doubt he would keep any pro-life principles as well. He has been quoted using pro-abortion language and euphemistic slogans.

In the end, its better to lose four years than forty. This is quite likely her reasoning.[/quote]


First, McCain's predecessor in his Senate seat, Barry Goldwater, known as "Mr. Conservative", had a pro-abortion voting record and constantly won re-election, so I find it highly unlikely that voting pro-life was a matter of political life and death.

Second, regarding "better to lose four years than forty". A lot of damage could happen in those four years, and it may require those forty just to make up for those four. Look at what happened after George HW Bush lost to Clinton in 1992. Within two years you had the draconian FACE law signed which is a tool to be used against pro-life demonstrators. You also had two pro-abortion Supreme Court (SCOTUS) justices appointed (one of which replaced a pro-life SCOTUS justice). That probably cost us reversing Roe vs. Wade in the 1990s. Sure, there was a backlash that got us the first GOP Congress in 40 years, but the damage had already been done. If Hilary or Obama are elected, are you willing to risk federal legislation codifying Roe vs. Wade as federal law being signed by them? Do you think it will be easy to repeal it?

Edited February 2, 2008 by Norseman82

[Norseman82]

Another thing. Why do people have to bring up an Egyptian president assassinated over 25 years ago as reason to show McCain is not conservative? [size=1][/size]

Edited February 2, 2008 by Norseman82

[Norseman82]

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Edited February 2, 2008 by Norseman82

[KnightofChrist]

The problem with Mccain is that he is a sellout. He has time and again sold out the republican party, its conservative base, in a effort to make a deal with liberals. If he can sellout the first amendment why not sellout his prolife stance. Which he has already stated he would not support the repeal of Roe vs. Wade. Believing certainly in the short term, or even the long term legal abortion is necessary.

Mccain has proven himself not to be trusted. The reason some would say four years is better than forty is because Mccain would destroy the conservative movement within the republican party, which would take many many years to rebuild. And in that time we could see many Hillarys in the White House.

Edited February 2, 2008 by KnightofChrist

[Alycin]

[quote name='XIX' post='1454188' date='Feb 1 2008, 04:22 PM']Bah. I don't take Ann Coulter seriously.[/quote]


No one should. Ann Coulter is the Michael Moore of the conservative party.

[Justin86]

I didn't believe it until I saw the video. I think the expression on my face looked something like this: .

It would appear that if Ann does this she would risk alienating her fan base, at least according to one poll done in a thread on the chat portion of her official website.

My opinion is we are currently in a time of war. Hillary would make for a terrible Commander-in-Chief, by far worse than McCain(although I don't see him as entirely ideal either). True, Hillary probably isn't going to pull troops out of Iraq, but her style of leadership for the military will be no different then her husbands, and that was an absolute disaster. McCain is by far a more acceptable candidate for the job, and therefore he gets my vote over Hildabeast any day.

On a final note, if Hillary does win against McCain conservatives who campaign for her will later regret their decision after she starts applying the Patriot Act to them. Most specficly:

[quote][The Patriot Act] would allow the government to wiretap a person for 15 days without a warrant; [b]federal agents could secretly arrest people and provide no information to their family, the media or their attorney until charges are brought[/b], no matter how long that took; and it would allow Americans to be [b]stripped of their citizenship for even unknowingly helping a group that is connected to an organization deemed to be terrrorist.[/b][/quote]

[url="http://crime.about.com/od/terrorism/i/partiot_act_2.htm"]http://crime.about.com/od/terrorism/i/partiot_act_2.htm[/url]

Ann and Lounge Daddy should enjoy their freedoms that they so aggressively want to defend while they last, if they choose to go this route.

Edited February 2, 2008 by Justin86

[XIX]

[quote name='Alycin' post='1454431' date='Feb 2 2008, 02:33 AM']No one should. Ann Coulter is the Michael Moore of the conservative party.[/quote]
Her real name should be Bob Loblaw.

[Dismas]

[quote name='nLEyETn' post='1454215' date='Feb 1 2008, 05:06 PM']It is hard to say what he would do if he became president but there is still more hope of him being pro life than there is of Hillary. And I would trust him to handle our national security more than any other candidate. He still isn't the candidate I want but I'd vote for the lesser of two evils if it came down to it. For Coulter to say she'd actually campaign for Hillary is just unbelievable, I'm just hoping she was saying it to try and give a wake up call to Republican voters out there.[/quote]
I'm sure that is what this is about. As for me, I'm going to have to vote Constitution party.

As for McCain's handling national security, bah. What was he doing for the military in the 90's? Oh yeah, dismantling it for Bill Clinton. I sincerely doubt he "got religion" about it, and I doubt he'll nominate any SCOTUS justices more pro-life than or more conservative than Justice Ginsburg. He loves popularity too much.
[quote name='Justin86' post='1454439' date='Feb 2 2008, 02:28 AM']On a final note, if Hillary does win against McCain conservatives who campaign for her will later regret their decision after she starts applying the Patriot Act to them.[/quote]
She won't have my vote.

[Jaime]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1454482' date='Feb 2 2008, 10:01 AM']I'm sure that is what this is about. As for me, I'm going to have to vote Constitution party.

As for McCain's handling national security, bah. What was he doing for the military in the 90's? Oh yeah, dismantling it for Bill Clinton. I sincerely doubt he "got religion" about it, and I doubt he'll nominate any SCOTUS justices more pro-life than or more conservative than Justice Ginsburg. He loves popularity too much.

She won't have my vote.[/quote]

Well the Constitution party doesn't seem to have a presidential candidate as of yet. If the candidate holds to the party line, then you would be ok.

While I wish that McCain would drop the abortion exceptions, I think he's awesome.