Safeguards To Torture

[Jaime]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1457536' date='Feb 8 2008, 10:59 AM']what if there's a criminal in an intergation room, and all those police we've come to know don't rough them up to accomplish a goal?
any episode of 24 etc you'll see this when it's needed, in rare occasions.



batman and robin were chasing a crook, but had to let him get away when he ran across the street. Batman insisted that they proceed to the nearest corner and wait for the "cross" signal instead of following the jaywalking bad guy.
this almost, though not necessarily depending on the person's motives.... smacks of unbridled egotism. "the ends never justify the means" are saying that they prize the sanctity of their own consciences (i'm almost certain if they're honest) above all else, including the lives of innocents. "sorry, ma'am, about your little girl. at least her death goes to show what fine, upstanding, moral people we police are. i hope that's some consolation." yeah...[/quote]


Dairy the difference between you and I is that I do not get my moral teachings from watching tv

[Deb]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1457648' date='Feb 8 2008, 02:34 PM']Dairy the difference between you and I is that I do not get my moral teachings from watching tv[/quote]

[dairygirl4u2c]

***Dairy the difference between you and I is that I do not get my moral teachings from watching tv***

yeah you get it from fantasy land.... "i get it from the 2000 year old teacher, blah blah blah boo yeah"

i know what i said is mean... but that's same as you've said to me, and that's what catholics tend to do way too much to none catholics. do you like getting made fun for when people say you live in fantasy land with your church? if not, you shouldn't be saying things like that.
not just you, but this phorum in particular and catholics in general.

[Deb]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1457740' date='Feb 8 2008, 04:07 PM']***Dairy the difference between you and I is that I do not get my moral teachings from watching tv***

yeah you get it from fantasy land.... "i get it from the 2000 year old teacher, blah blah blah boo yeah"

i know what i said is mean... but that's same as you've said to me, and that's what catholics tend to do way too much to none catholics. do you like getting made fun for when people say you live in fantasy land with your church? if not, you shouldn't be saying things like that.
not just you, but this phorum in particular and catholics in general.[/quote]


You were kind of asking for that comment by using Batman and Robin and 24 for examples. They aren't real.
People kind of attack me on a regular basis. I am just used to it and sometimes, I enjoy it.
Have you seen my Lederhosen?

[Jaime]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1457740' date='Feb 8 2008, 04:07 PM']***Dairy the difference between you and I is that I do not get my moral teachings from watching tv***

yeah you get it from fantasy land.... "i get it from the 2000 year old teacher, blah blah blah boo yeah"

i know what i said is mean... but that's same as you've said to me, and that's what catholics tend to do way too much to none catholics. do you like getting made fun for when people say you live in fantasy land with your church? if not, you shouldn't be saying things like that.
not just you, but this phorum in particular and catholics in general.[/quote]


Oh now come on Dairy

I hope you've seen that I've been one of... scratch that... you're biggest supporter through the years. I've been a fan of your polls (and you gotta admit you've had some pretty bizarre ones).

I think you're intelligent. I don't think you're a troll. And I honestly think that you're seeking the truth.

But as a supporter and as a fan of your polls, I gotta tell you you are off the mark on your scenarios when it comes to torture. These crazy scenarios where somebody's got my kids locked up in an underground vault that will explode in three hours blah blah blah. And then to back it up with Batman and 24?

You're smarter than that. And you're better at debate than that.

I meant what I said. You want to get into a thoughtful debate on moral relativism (which all of this boils down to) then I'm game. I'm sure a few others would be game as well.

[dairygirl4u2c]

thanks hot stuff. sorry i got upset.