Abortion Penalty

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1466157' date='Feb 20 2008, 09:48 AM']Nulled my vote too. Not in the mood to think about this one... plus, doctors are culpable... though, there are doctors out there who believe they are not doing anything wrong. Odd I know, since they're supposed to have scientific background, but aside from a pile of prison time, maybe they should get classes too.[/quote]

you mean like, RCIA classes?

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Didacus' post='1466205' date='Feb 20 2008, 12:37 PM']One's guilt does not release another's guilt.[/quote]
True.

[quote name='Didacus' post='1466267' date='Feb 20 2008, 02:41 PM']A life-sentence in Canada is a 25 year sentence by the way. Just thought I'd add that little bit of info; saying life = 25 years of a Canadien, technically speaking.

[/quote]
Lawl... yep. Forgot about that detail...

[quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1466760' date='Feb 21 2008, 01:51 PM']you mean like, RCIA classes?[/quote]
ha ha...

[Snowcatpa]

Someone should add another poll about what penalty the doctor's should receive.

I'm with the person who said tried for first degree murder with their license stripped away. Any doctor who intentionally murders in another way is given that. (like the euthanasia ones)

[Deb]

Well, presuming abortion was illegal, the heaviest weight should come down on the doctor with prosecution for murder. That should take care of abortions.
If not, then yes, she should be charged with murder.

So, if it is illegal in the U.S. and the woman goes to Mexico or Canada or anyplace where it is legal and has one, she has no problem. This is what occured prior to Roe V Wade so that the rich could get their abortions. How does one make it illegal world wide?

Edited February 22, 2008 by Deb

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Deb' post='1467176' date='Feb 22 2008, 08:57 AM']So, if it is illegal in the U.S. and the woman goes to Mexico or Canada or anyplace where it is legal and has one, she has no problem. This is what occured prior to Roe V Wade so that the rich could get their abortions. How does one make it illegal world wide?[/quote]

Isn't it actually illegal for a US Resident to travel to a foreign country for the purpose of breaking US law?

Edited February 22, 2008 by T-Bone _

[Deb]

I don't think it would in this case. You can go to Amsterdam and get high legally (or so I have heard) so not sure why you couldn't do anything else.

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Deb' post='1467214' date='Feb 22 2008, 09:55 AM']I don't think it would in this case. You can go to Amsterdam and get high legally (or so I have heard) so not sure why you couldn't do anything else.[/quote]

No. I don't think it's illegal to break US law outside of the boarders. But if you travel outside of US boarders for the [i]purpose[/i] of breaking the law, then it would be a crime.

[KnightofChrist]

I know I've heard about the FBI arresting sexual perverts that go to other nations where sex with underage girls is legal.

[friendofJPII]

This is a hard question, but we better know how to answer it b/c pro-aborts ask it all the time.

IMO, Yes, the women should be fined and jailed for prcuring and abotion. I wouldn't give them a long sentence (say 3 months), not something I would be thrilled about doing, but hey, we would have to enforce the law. In my local park there is a huge sign that says if you fail to pick up your dog's mushy mud pie you will pay a fine and be sent to jail for 90 days. Hmmmm.....and we hesitate to enforce any penalites on those who kill babies. Let's see....

dog mushy mud pie vs. killing a baby dog mushy mud pie vs..killing a baby----seems like no contest to me.

If we only prosecute the doctors we will have ilegit "drs" doing abortions on the side. Honestly, I think a LOT of hearts and minds would have to be changed before abortion would have become completly illegal. The Lord would have to intervene and work a big miracle. Pro-life would have to become popular...and we could take a bow b/c we were PL before it was popular! But the Lord is amazing and He can do anything.

In the meantime we should work for as many restrictions as possible. If Roe were overturned that would be a major step b/c states would be free to enforce more restrictions.

Edited March 1, 2008 by friendofJPII

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='Brother Adam' post='1465465' date='Feb 18 2008, 09:19 PM']I don't know. You tell me. What should the penalty for murdering a baby be?[/quote]
Death of the mother, obviously. The penalty for sin is death.

[johnnydigit]

up to life in prison. she should be tried just as any other murderer is tried in our society. there might be a jury, and factors such as an accomplice and temporary insanity would be considered. in the beginning the judge wouldn't enforce the full extent of punishment, but after a while, after society recognizes the crime, he may begin to enforce it.

Edited March 1, 2008 by johnnydigit

[Deb]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1471852' date='Mar 1 2008, 01:09 PM']I know I've heard about the FBI arresting sexual perverts that go to other nations where sex with underage girls is legal.[/quote]


Which nation has legal sex for underage girls?

[Deb]

[quote name='T-Bone _' post='1467217' date='Feb 22 2008, 11:58 AM']No. I don't think it's illegal to break US law outside of the boarders. But if you travel outside of US boarders for the [i]purpose[/i] of breaking the law, then it would be a crime.[/quote]

No. We have no jurisdiction in other countries. If we were smuggling something in that is illegal in the U.S., that would be a crime but you can't be arrested in the united states for committing a crime if it isn't a crime in the place you are committing it.
We aren't that powerful. We can't even arrest the people who committ crimes here, much less have manpower to worry about what people are doing on vacation or whatever.