Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling

[Lil Red]

[url="http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Glbal+Cooling/article10866.htm"]Article here[/url]

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

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Various links at the original article, linked above.

[scardella]

[quote name='Office Space']A "Jump to Conclusions" mat: You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.[/quote]

Let it pan out over 4-5 years before we go all crazy on the environmentalists.

[ardillacid]

But it is so fun to harass them. Not to mention easier than most others.

[XIX]

cool.

[Justin86]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1470781' date='Feb 29 2008, 08:17 AM']But it is so fun to harass them. Not to mention easier than most others.[/quote]

Edited February 28, 2008 by Justin86

[kafka]

it sure felt like global cooling in my neck of the woods this winter

[Dismas]

[quote name='scardella' post='1470766' date='Feb 28 2008, 04:56 PM']Let it pan out over 4-5 years before we go all crazy on the environmentalists.[/quote]
But I have my torch and pitchfork all ready for storming their ivory tower. Too bad we'll need to shovel all the snow out of the way first. I bet they don't have this kind of trouble in Transylvania when mad scientists run amok.

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1470829' date='Feb 28 2008, 04:07 PM']But I have my torch and pitchfork all ready for storming their ivory tower. Too bad we'll need to shovel all the snow out of the way first. I bet they don't have this kind of trouble in Transylvania when mad scientists run amok.[/quote]

Won't the CO[sub]2[/sub] from your torch add to global warming, though?

[Fidei Defensor]

Interesting data.

It's worth noting, though, that if global warming is in fact happening, it would lead to global climate change which does not necessarily mean everywhere is getting hotter. Changes in the salinity of the oceans due to the melting of the fresh water frozen in the icecaps would lead to changes in currents which can mean changes in climate - i.e. colder winters, weird weather. But if you look at the icecaps, they are the areas that are warming. Scientists are predicting that the Arctic Ocean may become ice-free before 2015.

[Socrates]

Obviously, this rapid global cooling is another global climatic catastrophe which can only be averted by massive global government socialism!

[jeffpugh]

Apparently there are record levels of ice though

[Fidei Defensor]

... edit. sorry

Edited February 29, 2008 by fidei defensor

[thessalonian]

I'm gonna go to washington next week and get them to put up big heaters everywhere. The sky is falling. The sky is falling. Oh no, we need massive umbrellas. I need to head right down to the appropriations committee.

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1470976' date='Feb 28 2008, 08:16 PM']Apparently there are record levels of ice though [/quote]

There's only one solution: Icy, icy Margaritas for everyone!

[Deb]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1470705' date='Feb 28 2008, 02:38 PM'][url="http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Glal+Cooling/article10866.htm"]Article here[/url]

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

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Various links at the original article, linked above.[/quote]

As usual, Fox news has to toss in its untrue sensationalism, Here is a quote from Anthony Watts who compiled the four sources (all measured in totally different ways but, he added them together):
[b]I wish to state for the record, that this statement is not mine:[/b] [i]“–a value large enough to erase nearly all the global warming recorded over the past 100 years” [/i]

There has been no “erasure”. This is an anomaly with a large magnitude, and it coincides with other anecdotal weather evidence. It is curious, it is unusual, it is large, it is unexpected, but it does not “erase” anything.



I am personally more concerned about global dimming.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1470976' date='Feb 28 2008, 09:16 PM']Apparently there are record levels of ice though [/quote]
That's an issue of ozone depletion, which is worst above antarctica. Thanks to the CFCs that were put into the atmosphere, the ozone was depleted. And with that occuring above antarctica, combined with extra greenhouse gases, antarctica ends up colder than it used to be.

I think it would be worth quoting to following in order to help demonstrate the idea of how global warming and stratospheric cooling are related:

[quote]A significant portion of the observed stratospheric cooling is also due to human-emitted greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane. Climate models predict that if greenhouse gases are to blame for heating at the surface, compensating cooling must occur in the upper atmosphere. We need only look as far as our sister planet, Venus, to see the truth of this theory. Venus's atmosphere is 96.5% carbon dioxide, which has triggered a run-away greenhouse effect of truly hellish proportions. The average surface temperature on Venus is a very toasty 894* F! However, Venus's upper atmosphere is a startling 4-5 times colder than Earth's upper atmosphere.
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One way to think about the problem is that the amount of infrared heat energy radiated out to space by a planet is roughly equal to the amount of solar energy it receives from the sun. If the surface atmosphere warms, there must be compensating cooling elsewhere in the atmosphere in order to keep the amount of heat given off by the planet the same. As emissions of greenhouse gases continue to rise, their cooling effect on the stratosphere will increase. This will make recovery of the stratospheric ozone layer much slower.[/quote]

[quote]Greenhouse gases have also led to the cooling of the atmosphere at levels higher than the stratosphere. Over the past 30 years, the Earth's surface temperature has increased 0.2-0.4 �C, while the temperature in the mesosphere, about 50-80 km above ground, has cooled 5-10 �C (Beig et al., 2006). There is no appreciable cooling due to ozone destruction at these altitudes, so nearly all of this dramatic cooling is due to the addition of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere. Even greater cooling of 17 �C per decade has been observed high in the ionosphere, at 350 km altitude. This has affected the orbits of orbiting satellites, due to decreased drag, since the upper atmosphere has shrunk and moved closer to the surface (Lastovicka et al., 2006). The density of the air has declined 2-3% per decade the past 30 years at 350 km altitude. So, in a sense, the sky IS falling![/quote]

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1470781' date='Feb 28 2008, 06:17 PM']But it is so fun to harass them. Not to mention easier than most others.[/quote]

Long as we can have the same sense of humor when people make fun of Catholics... all in good fun, of course.

[Fidei Defensor]

[Dismas]

[quote name='T-Bone _' post='1470850' date='Feb 28 2008, 06:48 PM']Won't the CO[sub]2[/sub] from your torch add to global warming, though?[/quote]
I can only hope, as the alternative means I won't be free of snow until June. Of course, the efficiency of CO[sub]2[/sub] as an [b]effective[/b] greenhouse gas always was risible.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Deb' post='1471308' date='Feb 29 2008, 01:31 PM']As usual, Fox news has to toss in its untrue sensationalism, Here is a quote from Anthony Watts who compiled the four sources (all measured in totally different ways but, he added them together):
[b]I wish to state for the record, that this statement is not mine:[/b] [i]“–a value large enough to erase nearly all the global warming recorded over the past 100 years” [/i]

There has been no “erasure”. This is an anomaly with a large magnitude, and it coincides with other anecdotal weather evidence. It is curious, it is unusual, it is large, it is unexpected, but it does not “erase” anything.



I am personally more concerned about global dimming.[/quote]
FoxNews is no more sensationalist than CNN or MSNBC.

This is why I get my news from the Enquirer.

jk