Getting Drunk

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[quote name='Socrates' post='1489038' date='Mar 30 2008, 06:50 PM']Getting drunk is a sin. Alcoholism is a disease.
From the Baltimore Catechism:

"Q. 305. What kind of a sin is drunkenness?

A. Drunkenness is a sin of gluttony by which a person deprives himself of the use of his reason by the excessive taking of intoxicating drink.

Q. 306. Is drunkenness always a mortal sin?

A. Deliberate drunkenness is always a mortal sin if the person be completely deprived of the use of reason by it, but drunkenness that is not intended or desired may be excused from mortal sin."

From The Catechism of the Catholic Church:

"2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others' safety on the road, at sea, or in the air. "[/quote]


[quote name='notardillacid' post='1489195' date='Mar 30 2008, 08:59 PM']...and with that the debate ends for all serious catholics [/quote]

What about Catholics who have a hard time being serious (except when it comes to following the Mageserium)?

[prose]

I see things like this (I haven't read this thread by the way).

Jesus would never encourage sin.

Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine and getting people who were already "feeling good" even more drunk (John 2).

So how could drinking be a sin???

I think that the RESULTS of drinking are the sin. If one loses all reasoning, they are sinning, if one can not control themselves, that is a sin. The drinking itself is arbitrary, it is the ultimate outcome that is often the problem.

Edited March 31, 2008 by prose

[Socrates]

[quote name='prose' post='1489575' date='Mar 31 2008, 12:07 PM']I see things like this (I haven't read this thread by the way).

Jesus would never encourage sin.

Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine and getting people who were already "feeling good" even more drunk (John 2).

So how could drinking be a sin???

I think that the RESULTS of drinking are the sin. If one loses all reasoning, they are sinning, if one can not control themselves, that is a sin. The drinking itself is arbitrary, it is the ultimate outcome that is often the problem.[/quote]
Perhaps you should read the thread before posting therein.

Drinking deliberately to get drunk is a sin of gluttony. Drinking in moderation is not.

[prose]

I read the thread now.

What I said was appropriate I think.