ardillacid Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote name='JesusIsMySuperHero' post='1516972' date='May 2 2008, 10:01 PM']LOL! Hell is an fallen angel. How can you have an agreement with a place? Explain that to me? You can only have an agreement with an intelligent being![/quote] It's a figure of speech. How many times have you heard in the news that the USA is in agreement with the UK? All the time. Two places being in an agreement.
Archaeology cat Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote name='JesusIsMySuperHero' post='1516972' date='May 3 2008, 03:01 AM']LOL! Hell is an fallen angel. How can you have an agreement with a place? Explain that to me? You can only have an agreement with an intelligent being![/quote] As notardillacid said, it's an expression. If you read the whole verse, you see that it first says an agreement with "death", which I think we will agree is not a person. It then says an agreement with Sheol, which is the abode of the dead, not exactly Hell, from what I understand.
JesusIsMySuperHero Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote name='notardillacid' post='1517096' date='May 3 2008, 05:16 AM']It's a figure of speech. How many times have you heard in the news that the USA is in agreement with the UK? All the time. Two places being in an agreement. [/quote] Yes, we use that all the time. As human beings, we tend to humanize places. I don't think God would humanize a place. And when we say the USA is in agreement with the UK, it really means, the politicians of the USA are in agreement with the politicians of the UK. Groups of people in agreement. Not places, but groups of people. So God probably means Hell is a person, and there are people who believe they have an agree with him/her/it. I had one Satanist outright say that Hell was going to be paradise, because he had an agreement with Hell. . . One of the reasons Satanists are so blatantly evil, the more evil they do, the more they believe they're afterlife will be a paradise! Of course, this also means they have refuge in lies.
JesusIsMySuperHero Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1517103' date='May 3 2008, 05:58 AM']As notardillacid said, it's an expression. If you read the whole verse, you see that it first says an agreement with "death", which I think we will agree is not a person. It then says an agreement with Sheol, which is the abode of the dead, not exactly Hell, from what I understand.[/quote] Again that is the angel of death. You know, the one that went through Egypt and killed all the first born! You know what, that makes more sense. . . Thanks for sharing.
ardillacid Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote name='JesusIsMySuperHero' post='1517125' date='May 3 2008, 09:27 AM']Yes, we use that all the time. As human beings, we tend to humanize places. I don't think God would humanize a place. And when we say the USA is in agreement with the UK, it really means, the politicians of the USA are in agreement with the politicians of the UK. Groups of people in agreement. Not places, but groups of people. So God probably means Hell is a person, and there are people who believe they have an agree with him/her/it. I had one Satanist outright say that Hell was going to be paradise, because he had an agreement with Hell. . . One of the reasons Satanists are so blatantly evil, the more evil they do, the more they believe they're afterlife will be a paradise! Of course, this also means they have refuge in lies.[/quote] The Bible was written by humans for humans through the inspiration of the HS. Of COURSE their are going to be human elements in it.
JesusIsMySuperHero Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) [quote name='notardillacid' post='1517326' date='May 3 2008, 01:18 PM']The Bible was written by humans for humans through the inspiration of the HS. Of COURSE their are going to be human elements in it. [/quote] Of course humans will humanize things, but what I am saying, even if they do - like saying the USA is in agreement with the UK, it doesnt mean two places, but members of two governments. Only people can agree with each other. Places are non-intelligent and can't be in agreement with an intelligent being. Or are you telling me, I can ask the Earth, a object and place, not to have gravity pull me towards it? Besides, God would want things to be clear. Think of it like this, why would he put a scripture like people saying they have a covenant with death and they are in agreement with hell and it not mean exactly what it is saying? Is God the God of confusion, no! So he would make it clear, plain, simple - like a good journalist would. It is clear, plain, and simple that there are people who are in agreement with hell, and they are taking refuge in lies. You can't be in agreement with the Grand Canyon. If you tried to make an agreement with the Grand Canyon, people would look at you and laugh. . . So, if you are in agreement, it means a neogation had to happen, and neogations only take place with two intelligent beings come to talk. . . Edited May 3, 2008 by JesusIsMySuperHero
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