Nunsense Posted May 20, 2008 Author Posted May 20, 2008 First off - Janet - have you contacted Ros about this yet? She has been sending out the Spiritual Directory and application forms - she has had over 200 enquiries! She doesn't want to start with more than 12 but not everyone who enquires is ready to enter right away, or would be suitable for the foundation year. I have been accepted and will be heading off to St Louis on June 13th. Once we are in habit, then we will start using our names in religion. Ros is letting us pick our own and I have decided on Sister Mary Michael of the Holy Cross. St Michael has always helped me out, and of course, since we are going to be [i]Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope[/i] - it only seems right to use Our Lady's name as well. Ros and I met yesterday for Mass and then brunch and this is a woman on fire with love for God! While at the restaurant, people who recognized her would approach just to ask her for prayers (and one lady who was a Baptist came up and asked for Ros' to prayer for a family member, which she did right there in the restaurant - no embarrassment about praying out loud in public!). She treated each person with such respect and love and kindness - a saint by anyone's standards. I feel as if I am watching history in the making and the excitement and joy is almost unbearable. Fortunately for me, Ros lives about an hour and a half away so I can offer to help out with things. She is so busy right now and has to keep flying out to different places for business or for conferences etc. We are hoping that all her things will be packed up by the 13th so she can fly out then and won't have to come back to California after that. That way, she can focus on the convent and on finishing off some speaking engagements. I will be driving a U-Haul (packed with things for the convent) from California to St Louis with another woman who is also going to be a sister, so it will give us time to get to know each other. We won't make it there until after the weekend, but there will still be plenty of work to be done in getting the convent ready. In fact, it will most likely take the whole summer. God willing, and depending on the Archbishop's availability, the consecration (and taking of the habit) may take place in September, with much rejoicing and a Procession and an Open House in the convent. This is a time of great graces and so many people have stepped forward to offer help in the form of donations or items or services. It is amazing how people's hearts are already being touched, before the community has even officially begun! Ros told me that she wants us to be a witness to God in the world, and that is why the habit is so important. When people see us, they will think of God. No matter what they think, at least they will have Him in their thoughts. So many people today never even think of God, let alone believe in Him. The habit is a sign of a life consecrated to God - that has to make a person stop and think. And from the sheer joy that radiates from her, I have no doubt that she will set many hearts on fire for Our Lord. Just watching the people who came up to speak with her at the restaurant was amazing. Their faces were beaming with love and inspiration after talking with her. I feel very blessed to be a part of this wonderful foundation. We are also obviously very blessed in Archbishop Burke, who has been so supportive of Ros' efforts. And Ros said that the parish priest is wonderful too. This whole project seems very blessed by God. No, I'm not excited at all
DiscerningSoul Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 That is so wonderful to hear, congrats!!! Oh course you'll be in my prayers. I think it's wonderful that you'll be in a habit, a silent form of vocation in of its self. I tend not to speak so well sometimes and people get the wrong idea because of it, one reason its important for me to find a place with a habit, I won't have to speak a word, people would know. I work at a gas station and my co-workers often call me sister Jessica, if they hear someone swear they point to me and tell them "Don't swear in front of her, she's going to be a nun" LOL after telling them several times, they don't do that anymore. Anyway, it is good too see. Jessica
DameAgnes Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Really wonderful to hear this is going forward, and that you have been accepted, Nunsense. Will you be fully habited right away as soon as the community forms? I can't wait to see them! :-)
Nunsense Posted May 20, 2008 Author Posted May 20, 2008 [quote name='DameAgnes' post='1534342' date='May 19 2008, 10:06 PM']Really wonderful to hear this is going forward, and that you have been accepted, Nunsense. Will you be fully habited right away as soon as the community forms? I can't wait to see them! :-)[/quote] Actually, yes. The Archbishop is allowing the founding sisters the special privilege of wearing the full professed habit from day one even though we won't be professed! The sisters who join after the first formation year will all have to go through the usual stages, Postulants in a uniform (with veil), Novices in full trad habit with white veil and then Professed with their blue veil (like the rest of the habit). The habit is being made now but I will ask Ros if we can take photos and post them on the web site when it's finished (with her modeling it?)
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 I am so super happy for you Annie! It is really amazing to hear how all of this is happening.
A Yearning Heart Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 That is great news!!! For the joy to be exploding from within really is a sign that it is your true home. Pray for us Annie, that we too might find out true home in this world.
gloriagurl Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 [quote name='nunsense' post='1534133' date='May 19 2008, 09:51 PM']I have been accepted and will be heading off to St Louis on June 13th. Once we are in habit, then we will start using our names in religion. Ros is letting us pick our own and I have decided on Sister Mary Michael of the Holy Cross. St Michael has always helped me out, and of course, since we are going to be [i]Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope[/i] - it only seems right to use Our Lady's name as well.[/quote] Nunsense, I must have missed the part where you posted (if you did) previously that you were accepted. CONGRATULATIONS. God Bless you. God go before you, with you, in you....may He surround all of the founding sisters (and of course those to come) with His strength, grace, and Holy Spirit Power. Deo gratias....semper Deo gratias. Pax
Guest Janet Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) [quote name='nunsense' post='1534133' date='May 19 2008, 08:51 PM']Thank you so much for your reply. I have sent Ros 2 emails and left 2 phone messages. I felt that this was a faster form of communication. When is Mother going to be in St. Louis? My self and Kathy Heying are ready, able and willing to join the order today. We can be there by June 13th or before June 13th, Or what would be the best time to come. How do we get an application? We are very interested in joining Mother Miriam on her journey. We first heard of this on Journey Home EWTN and I called Kathy she did not say hello she said do hear this it just happend we both came to change the channel to EWTN the feeling was phenomonal we live in two different states Kathy lives in IN and I live in WI. I feel this is a message from our Lord to hear and follow Mother Miriam on this journey. We have been discerning for quite some time. We just need a place to call home. We are a witness to wear the habit. The charism is something that we feel we can support with all our hearts to feed Gods people and bring them back to him. This is wonderful gift God gave us to follow him with Mother Miriam. So where do we go from here and how do we get to there, so that we can be one of the 12. How beautiful a number 12 just as our Lord chose 12 to start his journey with him. I pray that we can be with you all in June. Looking forward to hearing from you real soon. Janet and Kathy Janet L. Jones Kathy Heying [color="#FF0000"]edited out personal phone numbers, this is not appropriate info on a public board -cmom[/color] First off - Janet - have you contacted Ros about this yet? She has been sending out the Spiritual Directory and application forms - she has had over 200 enquiries! She doesn't want to start with more than 12 but not everyone who enquires is ready to enter right away, or would be suitable for the foundation year. I have been accepted and will be heading off to St Louis on June 13th. Once we are in habit, then we will start using our names in religion. Ros is letting us pick our own and I have decided on Sister Mary Michael of the Holy Cross. St Michael has always helped me out, and of course, since we are going to be [i]Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope[/i] - it only seems right to use Our Lady's name as well. Ros and I met yesterday for Mass and then brunch and this is a woman on fire with love for God! While at the restaurant, people who recognized her would approach just to ask her for prayers (and one lady who was a Baptist came up and asked for Ros' to prayer for a family member, which she did right there in the restaurant - no embarrassment about praying out loud in public!). She treated each person with such respect and love and kindness - a saint by anyone's standards. I feel as if I am watching history in the making and the excitement and joy is almost unbearable. Fortunately for me, Ros lives about an hour and a half away so I can offer to help out with things. She is so busy right now and has to keep flying out to different places for business or for conferences etc. We are hoping that all her things will be packed up by the 13th so she can fly out then and won't have to come back to California after that. That way, she can focus on the convent and on finishing off some speaking engagements. I will be driving a U-Haul (packed with things for the convent) from California to St Louis with another woman who is also going to be a sister, so it will give us time to get to know each other. We won't make it there until after the weekend, but there will still be plenty of work to be done in getting the convent ready. In fact, it will most likely take the whole summer. God willing, and depending on the Archbishop's availability, the consecration (and taking of the habit) may take place in September, with much rejoicing and a Procession and an Open House in the convent. This is a time of great graces and so many people have stepped forward to offer help in the form of donations or items or services. It is amazing how people's hearts are already being touched, before the community has even officially begun! Ros told me that she wants us to be a witness to God in the world, and that is why the habit is so important. When people see us, they will think of God. No matter what they think, at least they will have Him in their thoughts. So many people today never even think of God, let alone believe in Him. The habit is a sign of a life consecrated to God - that has to make a person stop and think. And from the sheer joy that radiates from her, I have no doubt that she will set many hearts on fire for Our Lord. Just watching the people who came up to speak with her at the restaurant was amazing. Their faces were beaming with love and inspiration after talking with her. I feel very blessed to be a part of this wonderful foundation. We are also obviously very blessed in Archbishop Burke, who has been so supportive of Ros' efforts. And Ros said that the parish priest is wonderful too. This whole project seems very blessed by God. No, I'm not excited at all [/quote] Edited May 20, 2008 by cmotherofpirl personal info
Guest Janet Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 The numbers were based on how many communities I visited. This was not a formal study by no means. If you would please let me know about your already been given warning. What would take presidence would be my answer after careful consideration and prayer. Hello Janet, I have a question or two regarding your message; You wrote, "The modified habit is fine but I know that I am to wear the full traditional habit and be a witness with the habit." You wrote "I know" with confident assurance, so I am wondering what would you do, if the community you were so sure of, changed many of their customs and wearing the full habit was one of them. What would take presidence; Obedience or "your personal knowing." I am not arguing, (I have already been given 'warning".) but this happened to many professed nuns in the 60's, who were a long time in community and suddenly, the Order was not what they 'signed onto" in the beginning. The conflict in plain words was "knuckle under or you're out". The older nuns were "so sure' of what God was asking of them and the younger nuns were "so sure" it was the Holy Spirit who was moving them. You wrote......" I totaly love the idea of the name change most all of the communities 98% you retain your own name." I totally disagree with the percentages used here. Could you give rreferences or attribution for your numbers please? Thanks [/quote]
Nunsense Posted May 20, 2008 Author Posted May 20, 2008 Janet - I have sent your post to Ros, and sent you a PM. God bless you. Annie
Chiquitunga Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Wow, this is amazing, Annie!! I am so very happy for you!! Wow!!
fides quarens intellectum Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 this is so exciting! Praise God! and, thank you for your yes!
Gemma Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 Annie--start a blog!!! What you wrote about driving the u-haul was priceless!!! Blessings, Gemma
Nunsense Posted May 22, 2008 Author Posted May 22, 2008 [quote name='Gemma' post='1536687' date='May 21 2008, 06:26 PM']Annie--start a blog!!! What you wrote about driving the u-haul was priceless!!! Blessings, Gemma[/quote] Gemma, you make me laugh! Actually, from the quotes I got, it is going to be cheaper to have a moving company take everything instead of hiring a truck for a one-way rental. I will still be driving cross country but only with the car now -so the story won't be quite as interesting! Ros has someone working on the web site now, but I might start a blog just for fun. After all, it is kind of history in the making, being in at the start of a new community!
Nunsense Posted May 22, 2008 Author Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) This is an extract from Ros' letter to potential candidates... [i]Those who wish to pursue the possibility of a future with the new community, but, for any reason, are not in a position to enter at present – as well as those who may not be able to pursue entrance to the community even in the future – may wish to consider one of four options, each of which is in the process of being formulated: (1) A one-year program of spiritual formation (in individual or group format) The program will consist of a study of the life of our Lord, using the new series, Reasons for Our Hope – A Bible Study on the Gospel of Luke (9 months), guided reading through St. Francis de Sales’ Introduction to the Devout Life (3 months), a program of daily prayer, help toward spiritual growth and direction, and the encouragement of like-minded souls! (2) Membership in the Third Order of the Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel’s Hope A program of prayer and spiritual growth to enable both individuals and families to grow in grace, in the love of God and neighbor, and to know and live God’s will for our lives. (3) Membership as a Lay Associate of the Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel’s Hope An opportunity for those who wish to be part of our support troops through prayer and through the myriad of talents and gifts which our Lord has showered upon His children. (4) Receipt of our brand new newsletter – yet in the making! For those who wish simply to keep in touch and to watch our Lord at work in the building of His new community of Sisters as they walk through the world, in full habit, as “messengers of hope to those who are longing for a sign of God’s mercy.” If you would like to be included in one or more of the options listed above – or in a way I’ve not yet thought of! – please let me know. We will contact you just as soon as these auxiliary programs are in place. One note here, to respond to a good number of you who have asked about a fully contemplative branch of the community. While we would love to have such a branch starting out, I have recognized two factors: first, that, of necessity, we must narrow our beginning to the heart of our charism, which is to “flood” the streets with holy habits as signs to God, reaching out to every soul who longs for Him. Second, I am confident that, since we are taking in women of all ages (who, upon entrance, can keep the pace of “walking the streets” twice daily for 1-½ hours at each “outing”), it will not be more than a few years before some of our Sisters will need to spend more time “off their feet!” and in prayer. At that time, a contemplative branch will form somewhat happily and naturally for our Lord’s aging street walkers! Regarding a time table for the establishment of the community, we are beginning work on the convent in Saint Louis at the end of this month, will move into our new facility at the beginning of July, spend the remainder of the summer getting it into shape, and look to the formal inauguration of the community in September! Our new website is being put together and should be up and running before too long. The address will be: www.MotherOfIsraelsHope.org. (If you click on that address now, you’ll get a blank page!) If you wish, in the interim, to take a look at the parish of Saint George at which our convent is located, you can see it at: [url="http://www.romeofthewest.com/2006/02/photos-of-saint-georges-church-affton.html"]http://www.romeofthewest.com/2006/02/photo...rch-affton.html[/url]. I look forward to hearing from you, as our Lord leads, and to seeing all that our Blessed Lord has in store. You all are in my prayers. God’s boundless love and grace to each of you! Rosalind Moss P.S. Several of you have mentioned your desire to help with the work of getting the convent into shape over the summer (painting, cleaning, decorating, etc.)! A dear angel, by the name of Judy Capistrant, in the St. Louis area, has volunteered to coordinate our team of volunteers. It would help me greatly if those who wish to help would contact Judy directly via her email at or by phone (for this information – contact Annie at [url="http://mailto:anniemac@calequus.com"]anniemac@calequus.com[/url]). Feel free to let Judy know the area(s) in which you or your group may wish to help. Judy will coordinate all and will let you know the dates and times we’ll be meeting at the convent. See you there; God bless you![/i] Edited May 22, 2008 by nunsense
DameAgnes Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 It is so exciting to see this happening so organically and from inception - and I'm so happy for you, too, Annie...but I think that was an excellent suggestion, your starting a blog - you can set one up for free at Blogspot and it would bring this very exciting process open to many others...and who knows how the lord may move them to help, or to prayer, or to making donations!
Nunsense Posted May 22, 2008 Author Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) One of the last chances to see and hear Ros before she heads to St Louis will be in Ohio. I don't know if the conference is full or not but the information is on the catholic answers website [url="http://www.catholic.com/seminars/calendar.asp"]here[/url]. The Gift of Faith Weekend Catholic Conference - Rosalind Moss Barrette Community Center on the Campus of Walsh University N. Canton, OH June 07 2020 East Maple Street NW N. Canton, OH 44720 1-330-966-2903 She will be in St Louis (for all you locals) from June 13th. Edited May 22, 2008 by nunsense
Era Might Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 [quote name='nunsense' post='1536721' date='May 21 2008, 09:31 PM'](3) Membership as a Lay Associate of the Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel’s Hope An opportunity for those who wish to be part of our support troops through prayer and through the myriad of talents and gifts which our Lord has showered upon His children.[/quote] Would that be open to men, or only women? I think their apostolate is great, to bring Our Lord to the streets. I've wanted to do something like that for a long time. It would be cool if they eventually found a men's order with the same apostolate.
Nunsense Posted May 22, 2008 Author Posted May 22, 2008 [quote name='Era Might' post='1537232' date='May 22 2008, 09:37 AM']Would that be open to men, or only women? I think their apostolate is great, to bring Our Lord to the streets. I've wanted to do something like that for a long time. It would be cool if they eventually found a men's order with the same apostolate.[/quote] I'll ask her, next time we chat. It would be great if men could be involved too!
praying4carmel Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 Annie, I am thrilled! I am so Happy for you! Please know that you are in my Prayers... + Nancy
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