Televangelist John Hagee Apologized For Calling The Catholic Church

[Didacus]

Some people a hampering over that this gesture was purely political.
So what?

I say if politics actually joined people closer together for once - bravo.

[praying4carmel]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1528101' date='May 14 2008, 03:31 AM']Watch yourself. Them fightin words. [/quote]

Because you live in Colorado springs? or because you support the Christian Coalition?

[StColette]

I don't like his wording in the apology. For some reason it sits kinda funny.

God Bless him if he is being truthful and in time we will know him by his fruits. If he has truly turned a new leaf then it will be evident in his ministry. I've watched Hagee for a long time and have heard him say many a bad thing toward the Church. I've also heard him tell his congregation, as regards the Iraq war, that we should just go over there and kill everybody. I pray that he has been truthful in his apology, and we will know it by the strides he makes to fix the damage he has made. Many anti-Catholic tele -evangelists have gone from extremely anti-Catholic to supporting the Catholic Church. Two men I can think of a Van Impe (who reads the Catechism on his show) and Billy Graham. Both of those men dedicated years to bad mouthing the Church and then something came over them (about the time JPII was elected Pope). I pray it is the same with Hagee.

[kujo]

[quote name='StColette' post='1528430' date='May 14 2008, 01:54 PM']I don't like his wording in the apology. For some reason it sits kinda funny.

God Bless him if he is being truthful and in time we will know him by his fruits. If he has truly turned a new leaf then it will be evident in his ministry. I've watched Hagee for a long time and have heard him say many a bad thing toward the Church. I've also heard him tell his congregation, as regards the Iraq war, that we should just go over there and kill everybody. I pray that he has been truthful in his apology, and we will know it by the strides he makes to fix the damage he has made. Many anti-Catholic tele -evangelists have gone from extremely anti-Catholic to supporting the Catholic Church. Two men I can think of a Van Impe (who reads the Catechism on his show) and Billy Graham. Both of those men dedicated years to bad mouthing the Church and then something came over them (about the time JPII was elected Pope). I pray it is the same with Hagee.[/quote]

I hope your rational-mindness is contagious...some people on this thread could use some!

[CatherineM]

I hope his apology came after some prayerful consideration and soul searching, and not just exclusively because of politics. I suspect if politics weren't involved, that the apology might not have come as it did or at all.

I get really tired of that Whore of Babylon thing. Christian Identity people called me that so many times I practically started answering to it. I didn't mind as much when they called me a papist, because I am that, but getting called a whore gets old quick.

[praying4carmel]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1528484' date='May 14 2008, 03:48 PM']I get really tired of that Whore of Babylon thing. Christian Identity people called me that so many times I practically started answering to it. I didn't mind as much when they called me a papist, because I am that, but getting called a whore gets old quick.[/quote]

Amen Catherine, That's why I was so off the cuff yesterday and poor Red had to moderate me!
I get tired of Hagee being poured down my throat etc along with that Whore thing. They must like jeremiah alot!
Chapter 3? or is it 4?

Mr Donohue is a good man.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='praying4carmel' post='1528408' date='May 14 2008, 11:36 AM']Because you live in Colorado springs? or because you support the Christian Coalition?[/quote]

the Springs. I couldn't give a rat's a** about the coalition.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='Didacus' post='1528397' date='May 14 2008, 11:29 AM']Some people a hampering over that this gesture was purely political.
So what?

I say if politics actually joined people closer together for once - bravo.[/quote]

sure, if he's sincere I agree. And I won't argue that he's not. It's just a feeling I have. I think that IF he's NOT being sincere then the political pressure is the deciding factor and I wish people would step up to the pressure and believe what they believe publicly regardless of any public pressure. Not saying this is him for sure, just saying it's happened so often, people just apologizing because its the "PC" thing to do, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case here. I think we will know (either way) by his actions in the coming months and years.

Edited May 14, 2008 by goldenchild17

[CatherineM]

tgoldson-I don't remember exactly which verse. The Christian Identity guys I went up against in the Posse and in the KKK are very old testament. The guy the Posse sent after me actually tried to stab me in the eye for "an eye for an eye." Thank God for Mr. Magoo glasses. What used to get me is that they tell you they are all about the bible, and then they don't know any of it outside a few pulled out verses that they don't understand in context, mutilate, and misuse. I don't remember Jesus ever calling anyone a whore, including the real ones he met.

[dominicansoul]

I don't trust Hagee at all. That's just me. I especially find Hagee a thorn in the side, because his church is in close proximity to where I live. I know a member of his flock. I have heard from my family their own experiences with members of Hagee's church. All I can say is there is no love in their hearts for Catholics, PERIOD.

I also know of a woman who is confused between the Catholic Church and Hagee's Baptist. She attends Mass AND goes to Hagee's services. She walked into his church wearing a medal of Our Lady of Guadalupe, and the ushers ripped it off her neck and threw it in the garbage.

No apologies there!

Hagee won't mean what he says every time he is caught saying it...but what he teaches his flock behind closed doors we can only imagine by their fruitless behavior and attitude...

Edited May 14, 2008 by dominicansoul

[kamiller42]

[quote name='StColette' post='1528430' date='May 14 2008, 12:54 PM']Two men I can think of a Van Impe (who reads the Catechism on his show) and Billy Graham. Both of those men dedicated years to bad mouthing the Church and then something came over them (about the time JPII was elected Pope). I pray it is the same with Hagee.[/quote]
Van Impe He's funny. His dramatic delivery. His machine gun delivery of Bible references when going on his diatribes. The low production quality. And don't get him started on the rapture. The show is SNL skit pretending to be a serious news analysis show.

[StColette]

[quote name='kamiller42' post='1528551' date='May 14 2008, 03:06 PM']Van Impe He's funny. His dramatic delivery. His machine gun delivery of Bible references when going on his diatribes. The low production quality. And don't get him started on the rapture. The show is SNL skit pretending to be a serious news analysis show.[/quote]

His show may be a little hokey but I commend him for the turn around he had. Any Protestant who is willing to use the Catechism to teach and says that what the Catechism says is what the Church teaches. I respect that highly.

[praying4carmel]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1528513' date='May 14 2008, 04:21 PM']the Springs. I couldn't give a rat's a** about the coalition.[/quote]

The Springs are beautiful!

Seriously is it different to live there with all the evangelical activity around or is it kinda sequestered off on it's own?

[Madame Vengier]

I just came across this:

[url="http://cristyli.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-hagee-apologizes-to-catholics.html"]http://cristyli.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-...-catholics.html[/url]

There is a link to an article saying that his words were twisted by someone else and that he's not the person he was made out to be. That's a relief and good news.

Edit: Okay, that link is not in reference to his anti-Catholic comments, but rather in reference to anti-Semitic comments that were attributed to him which are clearly false.

Edited May 14, 2008 by Madame Vengier

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='praying4carmel' post='1528670' date='May 14 2008, 04:20 PM']The Springs are beautiful!

Seriously is it different to live there with all the evangelical activity around or is it kinda sequestered off on it's own?[/quote]

well technically I live a little bit outside the springs, but I lived in Colorado Springs for 2-3 years and I didn't even notice it hardly at all. Maybe I was sheltered, or maybe I'm just used to it, but I don't think it's that out of the ordinary.

[kujo]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1528679' date='May 14 2008, 06:32 PM']well technically I live a little bit outside the springs, but I lived in Colorado Springs for 2-3 years and I didn't even notice it hardly at all. Maybe I was sheltered, or maybe I'm just used to it, but I don't think it's that out of the ordinary.[/quote]

Love Colorado Springs...my good friend Brittany lives there and I went up to see her last summer.

[catholicinsd]

McCain doesn't deserve the Catholic Vote.

[Paddington]

[quote name='catholicinsd' post='1529340' date='May 15 2008, 12:55 PM']McCain doesn't deserve the Catholic Vote.[/quote]

Maybe you misworded, but "who deserves what" sounds like an impossible way to vote.
People should vote for what they think is best for the United States and the world and the future and kittens.

[CatherineM]

Especially kittens, we have to save the kittens.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='kujo' post='1528787' date='May 14 2008, 06:13 PM']Love Colorado Springs...my good friend Brittany lives there and I went up to see her last summer.[/quote]

It's pretty cool. Though I'm more of a bigger city kinda person. I'm moving to Denver in a couple months.