Margarite Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 Ok, this it actually Margarite's daughter (little_phoenix i just forgot my password) anyway... I'm reading The Golden Compass right now, but i have a friends who is mad at me for doing so. My parants know that i am reading it. I've read two of the threads here, but it seems that no one has read the books themselves. So my question is... 1. Is it a sin to read the books? 2. Does the Catholic Church have a list of banned books? 3. Is this book series banned by the Church? I appreciate my friend very much, I would like to know if I should stop reading it or if my friend is overreacting?
iggyjoan Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 I would think it's okay as long as you have a good strong hold on your faith and know that what you are reading is fiction.
CatherineM Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 I often make it a point to read things like the Golden Compass or Da Vinci Code, because as a catechist, I get asked about the book de jour every RCIA go around. You can't deal with people's misunderstandings if you don't know what the enemies of orthodoxy are saying.
Farsight one Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) Well...I wouldn't read them, but that's because I think they're unimaginative and poorly written. As long as you understand that they're truly fiction and don't start associating the Church with the evil organization in the books, you should be fine. [quote name='CatherineM' post='1626465' date='Aug 13 2008, 10:14 PM']I often make it a point to read things like the Golden Compass or Da Vinci Code, because as a catechist, I get asked about the book de jour every RCIA go around. You can't deal with people's misunderstandings if you don't know what the enemies of orthodoxy are saying.[/quote] That is a very true statement that I wish more people would listen to - especially anti-Catholics. I hate this popular attitude of "I don't have to know what you believe to know it's wrong". Reminds me of the "plethora scene" from The Three Amigos (if you've seen that movie)...which has just inspired a new blog entry... joy! Edited August 14, 2008 by Farsight one
TeresaBenedicta Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 [quote name='Farsight one' post='1626477' date='Aug 13 2008, 11:28 PM']Well...I wouldn't read them, but that's because I think they're unimaginative and poorly written. As long as you understand that they're truly fiction and don't start associating the Church with the evil organization in the books, you should be fine.[/quote] Huh. I thought they were very well-written. (Not the Divinci Code-- that was horribly written). Read them if you'd like or if you're inclined. But keep a grasp on your faith. You're fine.
rachael Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1626465' date='Aug 13 2008, 10:14 PM']I often make it a point to read things like the Golden Compass or Da Vinci Code, because as a catechist, I get asked about the book de jour every RCIA go around. You can't deal with people's misunderstandings if you don't know what the enemies of orthodoxy are saying.[/quote] Good point. [quote name='Farsight one' post='1626477' date='Aug 13 2008, 10:28 PM']Well...I wouldn't read them, but that's because I think they're unimaginative and poorly written. As long as you understand that they're truly fiction and don't start associating the Church with the evil organization in the books, you should be fine.[/quote] How can you think they're unimaginative and poorly-written if you never read them?
Farsight one Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 [quote name='rachael' post='1626543' date='Aug 13 2008, 11:53 PM']How can you think they're unimaginative and poorly-written if you never read them? [/quote]Haha. Wow. It seems that I got a little over zealous. I don't know what I was thinking. You're right - I can't know that they're poorly written.
Didacus Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 I've seen the movie 'Golden Compass' and saw some allusions that one can consider anti-catholic, but is this a work specifically and intently aimed at being anti-catholic? Someone give me the low-down on this thing. My kids watched the movie and all.
homeschoolmom Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 [quote name='Didacus' post='1626664' date='Aug 14 2008, 07:10 AM']I've seen the movie 'Golden Compass' and saw some allusions that one can consider anti-catholic, but is this a work specifically and intently aimed at being anti-catholic? Someone give me the low-down on this thing. My kids watched the movie and all.[/quote] yes. [url="http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp"]http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp[/url]
Selah Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 It's sad. I actually love science fiction and fantasy a whole lot, but my word, some of the things that are quoted from the book in that article. That's why I stick with Madeleine L'engle! She incorperates the Church (or at least Christianity) into her books in a positive way
Madame Vengier Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 Well, the author hated the Catholic Church and Christianity in general, so that tells me what I need to know.
jenna311 Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 I used to like the books when I was younger, but when I reread them, I was shocked at how anti-Catholic it was. I didn't see the movies in theaters, but I saw it a few weeks ago. They definitely toned down the anti-Catholicism, but there were a few negative things about the Magisterium. I didn't think the movie was that good, and from what I heard, it flopped in theaters.
Justin86 Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 [quote name='Selah' post='1626753' date='Aug 14 2008, 11:31 PM']That's why I stick with Madeleine L'engle! She incorperates the Church (or at least Christianity) into her books in a positive way [/quote] SHe incorpates Christian universialism in her books. I would be very cautious of her as well.
Selah Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) [quote]SHe incorpates Christian universialism in her books. I would be very cautious of her as well.[/quote] I am aware of this, but she is far from a Phillip Pullman. Edited August 14, 2008 by Selah
Nihil Obstat Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I would read the Golden Compass if you're strong in your faith. Let's you know what we're up against. I actually did read them, a long time ago, but I shouldn't have. I got lucky, I figured out something was wrong with it. I was only... maybe 13, but somehow I noticed that it was bad.
Nihil Obstat Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1627792' date='Aug 14 2008, 10:56 PM']I would read the Golden Compass if you're strong in your faith. Let's you know what we're up against. I actually did read them, a long time ago, but I shouldn't have. I got lucky, I figured out something was wrong with it. I was only... maybe 13, but somehow I noticed that it was bad.[/quote] That being said, they actually aren't very good books. They're not well written and the story is pretty lame. I did like the idea of little animal-ish things following you around, but that was it. Rest of it was pretty dumb.
HisChildForever Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I read the third book years ago - my parents got it for me for Christmas, and apparently knew little of the series, since they didn't buy me the first book, or the second...just the third. As I was reading it, of course I realized that there were references made to what happened in the previous books. From what I remember (this is "The Amber Spyglass"), the boy character received a knife (I imagine this is literally "The Subtle Knife") which he uses to cut through the air and enter into other dimensions. I recall the main part of the third book to be the boy and girl traveling to the dimension of the dead. The girl has a familiar, Pan I think the name was, who couldn't cross the River Styx with them. (I forget why.) I do remember that the afterlife was a mix of all types of people, good and evil, and it was very melancholy and bland.
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