China Confiscates Bibles From American Christians

[Justin86]

[quote name='Farsight one' post='1634065' date='Aug 22 2008, 11:17 AM']You guys are overreacting. It was innocent speculation. Geez. Speak one dissenting opinion - even in jest - in this place, and get jumped on by half a dozen people. (who, btw, never bothered to answer the question). [/quote]
Did you mean this in jest?

[quote]I'm curious as to what some of these differences are.[/quote]

Really? The fact that they feel compelled to set up their own state religion to compete against ours isn't enough to clue you in that they persecute Catholicism? You did figure out that Rome condemns this quazi-state church, right?

[quote]You guys need to seriously take a step back, take a few deep breaths, and read it all again without letting your emotions control you. I've been blatantly insulted one too many times in this topic - even after I admitted I was wrong. And guess what? The mods have done nothing. Hmm...that reminds me of something...[/quote]
No one here ever attacked you personally. You made a ridiculous comment saying that Chinese persecution of Christians was justified. You're comments were treated exactly as they should've been.

[quote]who wants to guess what it reminds me of? [/quote]
I don't know what's running through your mind, but in mine all I can think of is "authentic Catholicism".

[Justin86]

[quote name='Farsight one' post='1633110' date='Aug 21 2008, 08:53 AM']I'm glad you do. Most people, however, do not think that way.[/quote]
I find this comment most disturbing in that you seem to be sympathizing with fascism here. While I am offended by street corner proselytizing, I am also offended by Michael Moore, Jesse Jackson, and Louis Farrakhan. I don't support the government outlawing anyone's freedom of speech that does not incite violence and I don' think most Americans do.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Farsight one' post='1634065' date='Aug 21 2008, 10:17 PM']You guys are overreacting. It was innocent speculation. Geez. Speak one dissenting opinion - even in jest - in this place, and get jumped on by half a dozen people. (who, btw, never bothered to answer the question).

You guys need to seriously take a step back, take a few deep breaths, and read it all again without letting your emotions control you. I've been blatantly insulted one too many times in this topic - even after I admitted I was wrong. And guess what? The mods have done nothing. Hmm...that reminds me of something...

who wants to guess what it reminds me of? [/quote]


[quote name='Lil Red' post='1634091' date='Aug 21 2008, 10:34 PM']+J.M.J.+
the mods aren't mind readers. if you think someone has stepped over the line, then guess what? there's this handy dandy 'report' button by each person's post. and if you click on it, you can report on what you think the offensive content is. thanks.[/quote]


I'm not sure if you think we have the phorum bugged, video cameras in every thread and hired children to rat on guideline violators, but we don't. As omnipresent as the mods seem, we aren't everywhere. Even if we post in a thread does not mean that we've read every post in the thread.

Hit REPORT.

[Farsight one]

[quote name='Justin86' post='1634420' date='Aug 22 2008, 05:08 AM']Really? The fact that they feel compelled to set up their own state religion to compete against ours isn't enough to clue you in that they persecute Catholicism? You did figure out that Rome condemns this quazi-state church, right?[/quote]And did I know they were doing that at the time I said it? Do I know the differences between the state run version and the real version(no)?


[quote]No one here ever attacked you personally. You made a ridiculous comment saying that Chinese persecution of Christians was justified. You're comments were treated exactly as they should've been.[/quote]No. You very much misunderstand me. I don't think Chinese persecution of Christians is justified. I don't think persecution of anyone is justified. But at the time, I didn't think it was persecution. I saw it as Christians sinning by breaking laws. If I had held your beliefs at the time I said it, yes. It would have been ridiculous. But working with what little I actually knew, it was a perfectly logical statement.


[quote]I don't know what's running through your mind, but in mine all I can think of is "authentic Catholicism".[/quote]Communism. Communism was what's running through my mind.

[quote name='Justin86' post='1634421' date='Aug 22 2008, 05:12 AM']I find this comment most disturbing in that you seem to be sympathizing with fascism here. While I am offended by street corner proselytizing, I am also offended by Michael Moore, Jesse Jackson, and Louis Farrakhan. I don't support the government outlawing anyone's freedom of speech that does not incite violence and I don' think most Americans do.[/quote]I might potentially do that, but never for the simple fact that it is fascism. Your mentality here seems to be that simply because it is fascism or communism, it must be wrong in every way possible. This is not true. Abortion is legal in America. If, hypothetically, it was illegal in China, then I would side with China on that issue. And that's what I was saying - that I'm glad he(she?) was siding with the Christians because he(she?) felt that the Christians were in the right, and not solely because they were Christians.

If you side with someone simply because they are a fellow Christian or phatmasser, or football fan, or friend or family, then you have found a poor motivation to take a side. "Stand up for what is right, even if you stand alone" - you know. That kind of thing?

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1634448' date='Aug 22 2008, 08:11 AM']I'm not sure if you think we have the phorum bugged, video cameras in every thread and hired children to rat on guideline violators, but we don't. As omnipresent as the mods seem, we aren't everywhere. Even if we post in a thread does not mean that we've read every post in the thread.

Hit REPORT.[/quote]I saw mods posting. I just figured that they were reading everything as well.