Heres A Question

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='alimarie_11' post='1638320' date='Aug 25 2008, 11:28 PM']i don't belive i am better than god, i just don't agree with him, but i thought god was supoosed to be all loving and understanding ... i don't know..i can't understand
and it is late, and i am tired.





i would ask why they don't agree, and try to see thier side, anyone is welcome in my home, if they have the same beliefs or not as me.
but not so much if they're disrespectful, i get you there.






i would certainly rather have the latter in my home





so i disrespcet god, and its your job to make up for it?
hmm


welli didn't mean to offend anyone, of course, so my apologies[/quote]

I defend my love. When someone disrespects my love or my friends, I let them know I am displeased, because I am a loyal friend.

The more I read the 10 commandments, BTW, the more I see how much they protect us from harm. How many HIV victims would have been prevented if people didn't practice pre-martial sex, or injecting themselves with needles? How many people would be alive today if nobody murdered? How much would we save on the things we buy if nobody stole from people to raise inflation?

When we break these laws that God set up, then we are saying, I don't care about my fellow man and I don't care about what you think God. I disagree with you, and I'm putting up my spiritual middle-finger up at you.

Would you offer someone like that heaven, who cares nothing about the people around them?

[havok579257]

[quote name='alimarie_11' post='1638320' date='Aug 25 2008, 11:28 PM']i don't belive i am better than god, i just don't agree with him, but i thought god was supoosed to be all loving and understanding ... i don't know..i can't understand
and it is late, and i am tired.





i would ask why they don't agree, and try to see thier side, anyone is welcome in my home, if they have the same beliefs or not as me.
but not so much if they're disrespectful, i get you there.






i would certainly rather have the latter in my home





so i disrespcet god, and its your job to make up for it?
hmm


welli didn't mean to offend anyone, of course, so my apologies[/quote]


Well offending God is the same as if you offended his mom/dad/wife/kids. If someone disprespected your family you wouldn't defend them?

Also would you let a rapist into your house? Or how about a NAMBLA(national association of man boy love) member into your house? YOu said you would let people in if they have different beliefs?

God is all loving. He is so loving that he says no matter how much you disrespect me, my rules, my son, my children, I will forgive you if you simply ask for it(and mean it) anf then you can enter my house. That is more loving than any human could ever be. If someone killed/raped/maimed your spouse, do you think you could forgive them when they asked for forgiveness? No, you couldn't. Cause your human and no human could ever forgive someone for something like that. Yet God will, if all you do is ask and then follow him. To me, that is the definition of all loving.

Now if your referring to the aspect of God not letting everyone into heaven, like I said before, its real simple. God gave us free will, so he gave us a choice to get into his house/heaven. He said, follow my rules and you can enter my house. If you don't, then you may not enter. I will not force my will upon you, I will let you decide. You can do whatever you want in life, but if you refuse to follow my rules, you can not enter my house. In my house is eternal happiness. All you have to do is follow my rules. Oh and by the way, God does not send any human to hell. We choose hell over heaven. God does not send anyone to hell. So how is that not all loving. He loves us so much he gives us the ability to choose our etenal destiny.

[Fidei Defensor]

[mod]Disrespectful speech toward Our Lord. --Era Might[/mod]

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638364' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:28 AM'][mod]Disrespectful speech toward Our Lord. --Era Might[/mod][/quote]

And...that one came from left field.

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638364' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:28 AM'][mod]Disrespectful speech toward Our Lord. --Era Might[/mod][/quote]

Then why are you at a website that celebrates him.

And you're wrong to. All believers are spiritually espoused to God. Such a child, between a believer and God, would not be born of a woman who was not married to the one she had the child with. So, you are completely wrong!

[IrishSalesian]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638364' date='Aug 26 2008, 01:28 AM'][mod]Disrespectful speech toward Our Lord. --Era Might[/mod][/quote]
No he wasn't. God is his father, so Jesus was not [mod]edit-- language--hsm[/mod]. He had a mother and a father.

[HisChildForever]

He also had a stepfather.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1638367' date='Aug 25 2008, 10:30 PM']Then why are you at a website that celebrates him.

And you're wrong to. All believers are spiritually espoused to God. Such a child, between a believer and God, would not be born of a woman who was not married to the one she had the child with. So, you are completely wrong![/quote]
Oh come off it. I know what this phorum is about and I've been here longer than you, by years. Most people who have been here that long or longer know me. They may disagree with me, but they know me.

I like to stir the pot.

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638364' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:28 AM'][mod]Disrespectful speech toward Our Lord. --Era Might[/mod][/quote]

Atheists are people who are only looking for an excuse to act anyway they choose. [mod]Personal attack. --Era Might[/mod]

[HisChildForever]

OMG HAHAHAHHAHA.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638372' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:37 AM']Oh come off it. I know what this phorum is about and I've been here longer than you, by years. Most people who have been here that long or longer know me. They may disagree with me, but they know me.

I like to stir the pot.[/quote]

How are you "stirring the pot" by calling Jesus a [mod]edit--language--hsm[/mod] You're just discrediting your intelligence by saying something ridiculous.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1638376' date='Aug 25 2008, 10:42 PM']How are you "stirring the pot" by calling Jesus [mod]edit[/mod]? You're just discrediting your intelligence by saying something ridiculous.[/quote]
No. People need to lighten up a bit.

Plus, its funny to watch how people react.

Don't underestimate me. I don't pretend to be a genius, but I'm also not stupid.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1638373' date='Aug 25 2008, 10:37 PM']Atheists are people who are only looking for an excuse to act anyway they choose. [mod]Personal attack. --Era Might[/mod][/quote]
P.S. I'm not an atheist, but I don't answer to you or your little god.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638379' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:43 AM']No. People need to lighten up a bit.[/quote]

Did you [i]not[/i] see the donkey picture?

[quote]Plus, its funny to watch how people react.[/quote]

I can only imagine.

[quote]Don't underestimate me. I don't pretend to be a genius, but I'm also not stupid.[/quote]

No one is underestimating you. There's a time and a place for silly comments. The Lame Board is always the place.

Though there's nothing silly and amusing about name-calling Jesus.

[HisChildForever]

[quote]P.S. I'm not an atheist, but I don't answer to you or your little god.[/quote]

LOL.

Who [i]do[/i] you answer to?

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638380' date='Aug 25 2008, 11:45 PM']P.S. I'm not an atheist, but I don't answer to you or your little god.[/quote]

Oh, you're a Pagan, or Luciferian. I eat punks like you for breakfast! LOL!

Bring it buddy.
[img]http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/matrix_revolutions/27.jpeg[/img]

[HisChildForever]

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1638393' date='Aug 25 2008, 11:58 PM'][/quote]
LOL

I'm only being just as inflamatory as he is. LOL! When someone of his kind of arrogance comes along to meet me, I go for the mental jugular. I've seen enough of how this type of person works to know that when you challenge them, they go running like the cowards they are.

So relax.

After all, we are called to make Christ's enemies his footstool.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1638398' date='Aug 25 2008, 11:06 PM']LOL

I'm only being just as inflamatory as he is. LOL! When someone of his kind of arrogance comes along to meet me, I go for the mental jugular. I've seen enough of how this type of person works to know that when you challenge them, they go running like the cowards they are.

So relax.

After all, we are called to make Christ's enemies his footstool.[/quote]
Lol.

You're kind of mean. No wonder no one wants to debate you. There is this thing called charity... ask around. It's a generally accepted thing around here that if you're Christian and you talk like you are right now, you're not a very good one.

Edit: here are the phorum guidelines if you haven't read them - [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=81147"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=81147[/url]

Edited August 26, 2008 by fidei defensor

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1638399' date='Aug 26 2008, 01:08 AM']Lol.

You're kind of mean. No wonder no one wants to debate you. There is this thing called charity... ask around. It's a generally accepted thing around here that if you're Christian and you talk like you are right now, you're not a very good one.

Edit: here are the phorum guidelines if you haven't read them - [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=81147"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=81147[/url][/quote]

I'm still going to make you my lord's footstool!