Obama Says "my Muslim Faith"

[princessgianna]

[quote name='XIX' post='1650842' date='Sep 8 2008, 06:13 PM']I hear Barack Obama causes cancer.[/quote]
according to the state of California!!!

[XIX]

He also causes Cholera and Typhoid fever. Plus it's his fault you couldn't carry more than 200 pounds of food back to your wagon after hunting. No wonder you always lost at Oregon Trail

[Mercy me]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1650813' date='Sep 8 2008, 05:27 PM']honestly.. will you grow up?

are you forgetting that Giuliani is no better than Obama on most issues that actually matter??[/quote]

Didymus you didn't get the joke. Rudy Giuliani made an issue of the act that Obama voted present over 130 times as a state legislator. Giuliani's point was that in an executive position you do not have the luxury of voting present.

[Mercy me]

I found an article that was written about a year and a half ago about Obama. It is more biographical in nature but it refers to his religion growing up. Interestingly enough it comes from the left leaning Los Angeles Times. It is a nice article. [url="http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/15/nation/na-obama15"]This is the link to the article.[/url]

[KnightofChrist]

'He bowed to Allah' [i]of Islam[/i]

[Winchester]

Sweet Odin's undershorts, I don't think he's an underground Muslim.

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='SpareTime' post='1650699' date='Sep 8 2008, 01:54 PM']No idea what you're talking about...[/quote]

Dad was a warden and taught us a few tricks to spot out liars. Looking down and to the right is usually indicative of the person fabricating a response; looking up and to the left usually means they are jogging their memories.

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1650765' date='Sep 8 2008, 03:12 PM']I think people who are lying glance down and to the right, but then i've heard its down and to the left too [/quote]

Doesn't necessarily mean they are lying (though odds are they probably are) - they are just relying more on their "creative" side to answer a question.


Of course, i don't have a degree in psychology or criminial justice, so feel free to give no weight to what i just said.

[homeschoolmom]

See... now I often look down when trying to formulate a reply... not because I am trying to create it out nothing, but I am usually (in those situations), trying to be diplomatic or explain something clearly.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1651052' date='Sep 9 2008, 12:13 AM']Sweet Odin's undershorts, I don't think he's an underground Muslim.[/quote]

I agree. These conspiracy theories are just plain silly. But they illustrate that many people do not trust Obama is being forthcoming about what he believes. I think a lot of people have a bad feeling about Obama; and it doesn't help that Obama is avoiding clarity.

[drfrana]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1650813' date='Sep 8 2008, 06:27 PM']honestly.. will you grow up?

are you forgetting that Giuliani is no better than Obama on most issues that actually matter??[/quote]



guiliani had some zingers going about obama at the RNC

[Guest]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1651022' date='Sep 8 2008, 11:35 PM'] 'He bowed to Allah' [i]of Islam[/i][/quote]

didnt the pope kiss the quran ???
man there are some haters in this thread...
let it go....
the man confesses Christ as his savior....
he's not an antichrist...
an antichrist is someone who denys Christ came in the flesh....
do we want him as a president ?? nooooooo
do we have to hate on him all the time and make lies up about him and judge him ?? noooooo

[Mercy me]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1651052' date='Sep 9 2008, 12:13 AM']Sweet Odin's undershorts, I don't think he's an underground Muslim.[/quote]

I don't either. But I do suspect that there is some truth to these stories. The one that I posted from the LA times was very complimentary of him. I do suspect that he was a muslim as a child. If it is true then just say it. Christians of all people understand conversion. Obama has been very careful in how he answers the question. He does not say that he was never a muslim. He became a Christian in 1988. What was he before? Answer that question and this whole thing goes away.

[Didymus]

[quote name='Mercy me' post='1651008' date='Sep 8 2008, 11:25 PM']Didymus you didn't get the joke. Rudy Giuliani made an issue of the act that Obama voted present over 130 times as a state legislator. Giuliani's point was that in an executive position you do not have the luxury of voting present.[/quote]

thank you but yes I did, and he also made a ridiculous comment about the Chicago political machine (ridiculous as it came from him.) But I did watch his speech. I just think it does no help to bring him up in an anti-obama thread, no matter what he spews from the rnc pulpit (9/11, 9/11, 9/11)

I have no idea why the GOP wants to claim this man.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1651667' date='Sep 9 2008, 05:38 PM']didnt the pope kiss the quran ???
man there are some haters in this thread...
let it go....
the man confesses Christ as his savior....
he's not an antichrist...
an antichrist is someone who denys Christ came in the flesh....
do we want him as a president ?? nooooooo
do we have to hate on him all the time and make lies up about him and judge him ?? noooooo[/quote]

I dont hate the man, but he is antichristian. I was merely stating what the article itself said that "he bowed to Allah." I added [i]of Islam[/i]. Allah of Islam is a false god, the Qur’an while it contains truths is still a false book. Which was only a wow thing that a former Muslim could be president.

I know he now claims to be Christian, but he sacrifices children to Baal.

[Saint Therese]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1650501' date='Sep 8 2008, 12:48 AM']I think that it is a possibility that he, and his wife, [url="http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305420655186700"]could secretly be radical America-hating Marxists. [/url][/quote]

I think that's much more than a possibility.
Whether or not he is a Muslin I can't say for certain. But- His father was a Muslin and the Muslin faith passed down through the male line. Also, according to their beliefs once a Muslim always a Muslin.
He also went to Muslim schools.
His name Barak is the name of the horse that took Mohammed to heaven.
A good analogy might be: If this were during World War II and a candidate was running for president and his name was Heinrich Himmler. he was a member of the Hitler Youth, but he keeps saying- I'm not a Nazi!!
( I'm NOT equating O'bama as a Nazi. I'm just saying that we are at war and our main opponents are Muslim groups, just as one of our main opponents in WWII were the Nazis.)

Edited September 10, 2008 by Saint Therese

[Guest]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1651916' date='Sep 9 2008, 09:41 PM']I dont hate the man, but he is antichristian. I was merely stating what the article itself said that "he bowed to Allah." I added [i]of Islam[/i]. Allah of Islam is a false god, the Qur’an while it contains truths is still a false book. Which was only a wow thing that a former Muslim could be president.

I know he now claims to be Christian, but he sacrifices children to Baal.[/quote]

That is crazy a former muslim could be president, you are right. I feel bad for him.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1652514' date='Sep 10 2008, 06:07 PM']That is crazy a former muslim could be president, you are right. I feel bad for him.[/quote]

Other than Islam being a false religion I dont feel bad about someone because they are or were muslim.

I feel bad for him because he claims that Christ is his savior but then supports the Abortion Holocaust, which is also a Black Holocaust, being that a considerable number of babies murdered are black babies.

He is portrayed as a savior of men, when he is a destroyer of men.

[Guest]

Ya, if you ask him im sure he'll tell you he cant walk on water. I bet Chris Angel can.

[Guest]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1652517' date='Sep 10 2008, 07:14 PM']He is portrayed as a savior of men, when he is a destroyer of men.[/quote]


Is that how God will greet him ?

[Mercy me]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1651913' date='Sep 9 2008, 10:39 PM']thank you but yes I did, and he also made a ridiculous comment about the Chicago political machine (ridiculous as it came from him.) But I did watch his speech. I just think it does no help to bring him up in an anti-obama thread, no matter what he spews from the rnc pulpit (9/11, 9/11, 9/11)

I have no idea why the GOP wants to claim this man.[/quote]

You are right, he had one reference to the events of 9/11 in his speech and one reference to Chicago machine politics. Why the reference to machine politics is ridiculous eludes me. Chicago is famous for its machine as is New Orleans. New York does not have such a thing.

I like Giuliani. He is who he is. He is fallible and he is wrong on certain issues. But he is a clear headed thinker not prone to getting flustered. Most of all I like him because he made New York civil and clean. That is not something that the faint of heart cold do.