America As The Last Man Standing

[Madame Vengier]

Well worth the read. By Geert Wilders, Chairman Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York. The full text of the speech is in the link below. Some excerpts here:

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The danger I see looming is the scenario of America as the last man standing. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe. In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe? Patriots from around Europe risk their lives every day to prevent precisely this scenario form becoming a reality.

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But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world, a world very few visitors see – and one that does not appear in your tourist guidebook. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighbourhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It’s the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corner. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighbourhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.


Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighbourhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear “whore, whore”. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighbourhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Read it all:
[url="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022867.php#more"]http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022867.php#more[/url]

Edited September 30, 2008 by Madame Vengier

[Madame Vengier]

Interesting. I see 27 views and no one's got anything to say. I'm bumping it. In case there are 27 more people who want to view it and then ignore it.

[Brother Adam]

It's a reality that what is left of the West wants to ignore even though it is literally staring at us in the face, even more so in towns next to major public universities where you see more and more women who are completely covered with their task masters. Liberals will refuse to believe it until its too late (after all if we just talk to Muslims and concede to their personal wishes we can all live in harmony right?). We had better learn from history fast, or our generation, and more importantly, our children are in serious trouble. Liberalism has never been a serious threat to Christianity because they are incapable of reproducing themselves in the long term. It is the same story - Islam is the real threat.

Edited October 1, 2008 by Brother Adam

[philothea]

Yep, seems inevitable.

After all those centuries of fighting Islam... modern Europe just rolls over and dies through having no ideals of their own anymore. Very sad.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1666923' date='Sep 30 2008, 12:57 PM']Well worth the read. By Geert Wilders, Chairman Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York. The full text of the speech is in the link below. Some excerpts here:

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The danger I see looming is the scenario of America as the last man standing. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe. In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe? Patriots from around Europe risk their lives every day to prevent precisely this scenario form becoming a reality.

-----

But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world, a world very few visitors see – and one that does not appear in your tourist guidebook. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighbourhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It’s the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corner. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighbourhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.


Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighbourhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear “whore, whore”. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighbourhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Read it all:
[url="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022867.php#more"]http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022867.php#more[/url][/quote]
lol

[CatherineM]

Being out populated because they are having more babies. Margaret Sanger's worst nightmare coming true.

I've always wondered why they are allowed to name their kids Mohammad, but they can't draw a picture of one.

[Mercy me]

Mark Steyn has been writing about this for some time now. He has a great writing style and I highly recommend reading his books. The most recent is called America Alone which mirrors this speech. I find this terrifying.

[Hassan]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1667393' date='Sep 30 2008, 11:56 PM']Being out populated because they are having more babies. Margaret Sanger's worst nightmare coming true.

I've always wondered why they are allowed to name their kids Mohammad, but they can't draw a picture of one.[/quote]

Muslim art has allowed pictures of Muhammad, it is discouraged because one must not give the impression that Muhammad is being represented to be venerated or worshiped (although some of the art showed him with an aura)

As for the name it gives no hint of religious veneration of the man to name children after him.

My great philosophical question was always, given how many Muslims children are named Muhammad, does this cause a great deal of confusion in Muslim schools

It's a very deep issue

[Hassan]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1666923' date='Sep 30 2008, 12:57 PM']Well worth the read. By Geert Wilders, Chairman Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York. The full text of the speech is in the link below. Some excerpts here:

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The danger I see looming is the scenario of America as the last man standing. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe. In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe? Patriots from around Europe risk their lives every day to prevent precisely this scenario form becoming a reality.

-----

But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world, a world very few visitors see – and one that does not appear in your tourist guidebook. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighbourhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It’s the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corner. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighbourhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.


Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighbourhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear “whore, whore”. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighbourhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Read it all:
[url="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022867.php#more"]http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022867.php#more[/url][/quote]

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[size=3]19th century anti catholic nativism[/size]



I don't know if it's more ironic than sad, or more sad than ironic

[puellapaschalis]

Believe me, dhr. Wilders is as anti-Catholic as you can imagine. He's popularly seen as an anti-immigration (sometimes even legal immigration) extremist - just as extreme as the chap who murdered Theo van Gogh, only on the other end of the spectrum.

[CatherineM]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1667846' date='Oct 1 2008, 04:35 PM']My great philosophical question was always, given how many Muslims children are named Muhammad, does this cause a great deal of confusion in Muslim schools [/quote]

It causes trouble in my family. Every generation has a Catherine and a James. Holidays can be confusing. It can make genealogy interesting.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='Brother Adam' post='1667358' date='Sep 30 2008, 11:29 PM']It's a reality that what is left of the West wants to ignore even though it is literally staring at us in the face, even more so in towns next to major public universities where you see more and more women who are completely covered with their task masters. Liberals will refuse to believe it until its too late (after all if we just talk to Muslims and concede to their personal wishes we can all live in harmony right?). We had better learn from history fast, or our generation, and more importantly, our children are in serious trouble. Liberalism has never been a serious threat to Christianity because they are incapable of reproducing themselves in the long term. It is the same story - Islam is the real threat.[/quote]


The sad truth---and I don't revel in this---is that while the liberals are pandering and being "tolerant" (i.e. being good and proper dhimmis) it is they who will suffer first as Islamization takes hold. We will see how they like it when their discover that they who opened the door wide for the conquest are the first to be trampled (Muslims don't take highly to abortion, homosexuality, "women's rights", contraception, sexual "freedom", and all the rest of the "rights" that liberals hold so dearly). The rest of us will be fighting the conquest to the end.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='Mercy me' post='1667424' date='Oct 1 2008, 12:29 AM']Mark Steyn has been writing about this for some time now. He has a great writing style and I highly recommend reading his books. The most recent is called America Alone which mirrors this speech. I find this terrifying.[/quote]


MS is a great freedom fighter. I encourage anyone who is interested in the topic of Islam and the West to listen to some of his speeches on You Tube.

Same goes for Ayaan Ali Hirsi, Brigitte Gabriel (though she can sometimes be a bit of a screamer and this may turn some people off), Noni Darwish and Dr. Wafa Sultan. They can all be found on You Tube. All of these women are great freedom fighters and all--with the exception of Brigitte Gabriel--are former Muslims raised in the heart of Islamic culture. However, Brigitte Gabriel was born and raised in Lebanon and lived to tell the story of surviving the war that Islam waged against the Christians there in the mid-1970s.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='puellapaschalis' post='1667873' date='Oct 1 2008, 06:02 PM']Believe me, dhr. Wilders is as anti-Catholic as you can imagine. He's popularly seen as an anti-immigration (sometimes even legal immigration) extremist - just as extreme as the chap who murdered Theo van Gogh, only on the other end of the spectrum.[/quote]


I'm interested in reading about Wilders' supposed racism and anti-Catholic hatred. Can you direct me to some online sources? Direct quotes would be best.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1667933' date='Oct 1 2008, 08:09 PM']It causes trouble in my family. Every generation has a Catherine and a James. Holidays can be confusing. It can make genealogy interesting.[/quote]

No, what puzzles me more than anything are the millions of Hispanic Catholic males named Jesus! How does that work? How does a mother spank a kid named Jesus? How does a teacher send a kid named Jesus to detention hall? How you get mad and yell a bad word at a guy named Jesus?

[Hassan]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1667973' date='Oct 1 2008, 08:39 PM'](Muslims don't take highly to abortion, homosexuality, "women's rights", contraception, sexual "freedom", and all the rest of the "rights" that liberals hold so dearly).[/quote]

Do you understand WHY it is inappropiate to make a universal statement about an entire group of people?

"All Catholics are lazy, they love poverty and can't, by themselves, adjust to our anglo-protestant work ethic"

See, that is bigotry, much like your statement.

[Norseman82]

There are some conservatives who believe that in order to preserve Judaeo-Christian morality, we need to align ourselves with Muslims in the culture wars. Do a web search on Dinesh D'Souza. I know Cathy Young wrote an article about this a year ago titled "The Right's Dance with Islam" that detailed some of this; I am trying to find an online link to that article.

Edited October 2, 2008 by Norseman82

[CatherineM]

I think that is what one of my biggest stumbling blocks is in regards to Muslims. The ones I know are closer to my personal values, regarding materialism, the culture, etc. I've got more in common with a new immigrant from Somalia than the WASPs who attend the UCC next door. It makes it so hard to keep my focus on the bottom line.

[puellapaschalis]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1667979' date='Oct 2 2008, 04:45 AM']I'm interested in reading about Wilders' supposed racism and anti-Catholic hatred. Can you direct me to some online sources? Direct quotes would be best.[/quote]

I can certainly do some checking up for you - it will be good for me too as I generally stay as far away from what happens in the Tweede Kamer as possible.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='Norseman82' post='1668082' date='Oct 1 2008, 10:55 PM']There are some conservatives who believe that in order to preserve Judaeo-Christian morality, we need to align ourselves with Muslims in the culture wars. Do a web search on Dinesh D'Souza. I know Cathy Young wrote an article about this a year ago titled "The Right's Dance with Islam" that detailed some of this; I am trying to find an online link to that article.[/quote]


This is a futile effort. The Muslims do not and have not aligned themselves with "the right" whatsoever, despite the fact that morally and culturally they have more in common with devoted Catholics and other Christians than they do with any single other group on the planet. But they don't care about this. They align themselves with the liberal Democrats because that is who panders to them, thus enabling them to advance Islam in America. Muslims want to advance the cause of Islam wherever they go even at the expense of all else. That is their Number One Priority. And I don't blame them. It's what they feel God wants them to do. They are not interested in assimilating nor being patriotic nor being "part of" anything outside Islam (that is why they don't align themselves with the people who are closest to their own moral and spiritual ideology). The notion that the conservatives can do a dance with the Muslims to win them over would be laughable if it truly weren't so sadly naive.