American Public School Text: " Jesus Was A Palestinian"

[Madame Vengier]

Source: [url="http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/022976.php"]http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/022976.php[/url]

[b]In my forthcoming book [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985569/002-8167125-3983247?ie=UTF8&tag=robertspencer-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1596985569"]Stealth Jihad[/url], I discuss how Islamic groups (some with Muslim Brotherhood links) are asked by clueless textbook publishers to vet history texts, so as to make sure that everything they say about Islam is nice and multicultural. Often as a result, these texts become little more than proselytizing vehicles for Islam. And this happens too: "'Jesus was a Palestinian,' claims U.S. history text: Study: American public school books have 'same inaccuracies' as Arab texts," by Bob Unruh for [url="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=76671"]WorldNetDaily[/url], October 3:

A new study reveals that if Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wanted to criticize the nation of Israel before the United Nations, he could use American public school textbooks to do so. [/b]

"It is shocking to find the kind of misinformation we discovered in American textbooks and supplemental materials being used by schools in every state in the country," said Dr. Gary Tobin, president of the Institute for Jewish & Community Research and a co-author of the study.

"Elected officials at every level should investigate how these offensive passages are creeping into our textbooks. Presenting false information in the classroom undermines the very foundation of the American educational system," he said.

Tobin teamed with insititute research associate Dennis Ybarra for the study, titled, "The Trouble with Textbooks: Distorting History and Religion." The five-year effort, which looked at 28 prominent history, geography and social studies textbooks, reveals American public school students are being loaded up with indoctrination about Christianity, Judaism, Islam and the Middle East, to the cost of Christianity and Judaism and the benefit of Islam. [...]

The new study by the IJCR found more than 500 erroneous passages in the books, including one textbook that charged that early Jewish civilization contributed little to the arts and sciences.

An excerpt from "World Civilizations," published by Thomson Wadsworth, for example, said, "Excepting the Old Testament's poetry, the Jews produced very little of note in any of the art forms ... There is no record of any important [early] Jewish contributions to the sciences."

The level of outrageousness grew: "Christianity was started by a young Palestinian named Jesus," claims "The World," published by Scott Foresman.

"The textbooks tend to be critical of Jews and Israel, disrespectful about Christianity, and rather than represent Islam in an objective way, tend to glorify it," said co-author Ybarra. "To teach children, for instance, that Jesus was a Palestinian and de-emphasize his Jewishness does a disservice to Christians and Jews as well as anyone who cares about historical accuracy."


[b]Read it all.[/b]

[Archaeology cat]

Grrr! I mean, I get angry enough at historical inaccuracies in textbooks, but this is even more aggravating, to put it mildly.

[CatherineM]

I guess he was a Palestinian because he lived in Palestine, but that would mean he was also a Roman because he was born in Rome's territory. He was raised in Egypt for a number of years, so you could also call him an African. I think the best label to use for him is human.

[Maggyie]

Jesus self-identified first of all as the Son of God but secondly as a Jew. Where are they getting this Jesus was a Palestinian stuff? However that may not have gotten in there just because an Islamic organization was "vetting" the textbook, plenty of historians can come up with this stuff all by themselves without any suggestions, that's how bad it is.

The bit about ancient Jewish contributions to art and science is not necessarily anti-Semitic - I am not an expert on ancient cultures, but WAS the Jewish contribution to arts or sciences significant besides the Psalms? I suppose you could add historians like Philo or Josephus although they are later. Did ancient Israel do anything with the sciences? My impression was that most of the astronomy and physics and that kind of thing was done by the Greeks. Are there any experts around here who know? Some civilizations are better at some things than others. I am sure historians of the future will note that turn-of-the-millennium American culture was rather shallow in terms of creating high art or music or literature (besides things like jazz, some movies and a few writers). But our technological contributions are incredible. Obviously the role of the Jews as God's chosen people is irreplaceable.

There is nothing wrong with a textbook criticizing Israel. One of the roles of historical writing is to take a critical and analytical approach to states. It's important that children learn that Caesar can make big mistakes and he's got to be watched.

[homeschoolmom]

And people think I'm [i]crazy [/i]for homeschooling...

[Selah]

I heard about this on CTF.

Yeah, they really got that wrong, lol.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1670878' date='Oct 5 2008, 03:29 PM']I guess he was a Palestinian because he lived in Palestine, but that would mean he was also a Roman because he was born in Rome's territory. He was raised in Egypt for a number of years, so you could also call him an African. I think the best label to use for him is human.[/quote]


He was an Israelite. Period.

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1671063' date='Oct 5 2008, 09:38 PM']He was an Israelite. Period.[/quote]

i don't know. I tend to agree with Catherine. If we want to get into samatics he was all of those things that she says. Nationality means alot more to people now than in did in the say 1930's when you WERE Italian or WERE Polish and not Polish-American Texan or Polish American New Englander. We see life a bit differently now. Jesus lived part of his life in Africa if that makes you uncomfortable deal with it.

I don't neccessarly agree with teaching that Jesus was a palastinian but what does it really matter where he came from. He could of been an alutian indian for all I care. So long as he forfilled the Jesus like functions and the parables of the OT thats all that really matters.

[homeschoolmom]

Jesus could be called a Galilean... a Nazarene... an Israelite... or a Jew.... I have no idea why Jesus would be called a Palestinian other than to further political correctness.

[Madame Vengier]

Jesus was a Jew who belonged to the covenant of Abraham. He was an Israelite, as the homeland of the Jews has been Israel for 4,000 years. There's no other way around this. This is also central to salvation history and is not merely "geographical hair-splitting".

[Socrates]

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1671071' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:46 PM']i don't know. I tend to agree with Catherine. If we want to get into samatics he was all of those things that she says. Nationality means alot more to people now than in did in the say 1930's when you WERE Italian or WERE Polish and not Polish-American Texan or Polish American New Englander. We see life a bit differently now. Jesus lived part of his life in Africa if that makes you uncomfortable deal with it.

I don't neccessarly agree with teaching that Jesus was a palastinian but what does it really matter where he came from. He could of been an alutian indian for all I care. So long as he forfilled the Jesus like functions and the parables of the OT thats all that really matters.[/quote]
This is just more politically correct garbage.
Jesus Christ was Jewish, as attested to in Scripture, and as common-sense would tell us.
His Jewish ethnicity is not irrelevant either, but is integral to His fulfillment of God's Covenant with the Jewish people, and His role as Messiah, the Son of David, and Chosen One of Israel. To claim His people of origin is entirely irrelevant is to deny the importance of most of what is written in the Bible.

The claim that Jesus Christ was anything other than Jewish is invariably a sign of a political agenda trumping truth - whether it's Nazis claiming He was "Aryan," Black militants claiming He was a black African, or pc textbooks calling Him "Palestinian."

Edited October 6, 2008 by Socrates

[SpareTime]

I am confused... I always heard that Jesus was middle-eastern. This isn't incorrect, right? But the Palestinian part is incorrect... right? Someone help me out?

[CatherineM]

I've got to remember that my sarcasm and dry wit do not translate well electronically.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1671094' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:05 PM']This is just more politically correct garbage.
Jesus Christ was Jewish, as attested to in Scripture, and as common-sense would tell us.
His Jewish ethnicity is not irrelevant either, but is integral to His fulfillment of God's Covenant with the Jewish people, and His role as Messiah, the Son of David, and Chosen One of Israel. To claim His people of origin is entirely irrelevant is to deny the importance of most of what is written in the Bible.

The claim that Jesus Christ was anything other than Jewish is invariably a sign of a political agenda trumping truth - whether it's Nazis claiming He was "Aryan," Black militants claiming He was a black African, or pc textbooks calling Him "Palestinian."[/quote]


He was [u]Palistinian[/u] Jew.

Simmilar to the parts of my family that are [u]Russian[/u] and [u]Romanian[/u]Jews.

Or my friend who is a [u]Polish[/u] Jew


Ethnicity is not always Nationality

and it takes a lot of chutzpah to say otherwise

Edited October 6, 2008 by Hassan

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1671094' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:05 PM']This is just more politically correct garbage.
Jesus Christ was Jewish, as attested to in Scripture, and as common-sense would tell us.
His Jewish ethnicity is not irrelevant either, but is integral to His fulfillment of God's Covenant with the Jewish people, and His role as Messiah, the Son of David, and Chosen One of Israel. To claim His people of origin is entirely irrelevant is to deny the importance of most of what is written in the Bible.

The claim that Jesus Christ was anything other than Jewish is invariably a sign of a political agenda trumping truth - whether it's Nazis claiming He was "Aryan," Black militants claiming He was a black African, or pc textbooks calling Him "Palestinian."[/quote]


Word to all that.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1671063' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:38 PM']He was an Israelite. Period.[/quote]


Well you say so.

So it must be true

P(1)Madam V says 'x' is true
:.\ 'x' is true

Q.E.D

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='SpareTime' post='1671097' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:07 PM']I am confused... I always heard that Jesus was middle-eastern. This isn't incorrect, right? But the Palestinian part is incorrect... right? Someone help me out?[/quote]


Israel is in the middle east, so yes, he was middle eastern.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1671082' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:55 PM']Jesus could be called a Galilean... a Nazarene... an Israelite... or a Jew.... I have no idea why Jesus would be called a Palestinian other than to further political correctness.[/quote]


To pander to the Muslims.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1671108' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:13 PM']To pander to the Muslims.[/quote]


Do you understand that not all Palistinians are Muslims?

There is absolutly nothing inaccurate in calling Jesus a Palistinian, except that it is more accurate to call him a Palistinian Jew.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1670851' date='Oct 5 2008, 02:03 PM']Source: [url="http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/022976.php"]http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/022976.php[/url]

[b]In my forthcoming book [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985569/002-8167125-3983247?ie=UTF8&tag=robertspencer-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1596985569"]Stealth Jihad[/url], I discuss how Islamic groups (some with Muslim Brotherhood links) are asked by clueless textbook publishers to vet history texts, so as to make sure that everything they say about Islam is nice and multicultural. Often as a result, these texts become little more than proselytizing vehicles for Islam. And this happens too: "'Jesus was a Palestinian,' claims U.S. history text: Study: American public school books have 'same inaccuracies' as Arab texts," by Bob Unruh for [url="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=76671"]WorldNetDaily[/url], October 3:

A new study reveals that if Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wanted to criticize the nation of Israel before the United Nations, he could use American public school textbooks to do so. [/b]

"It is shocking to find the kind of misinformation we discovered in American textbooks and supplemental materials being used by schools in every state in the country," said Dr. Gary Tobin, president of the Institute for Jewish & Community Research and a co-author of the study.

"Elected officials at every level should investigate how these offensive passages are creeping into our textbooks. Presenting false information in the classroom undermines the very foundation of the American educational system," he said.

Tobin teamed with insititute research associate Dennis Ybarra for the study, titled, "The Trouble with Textbooks: Distorting History and Religion." The five-year effort, which looked at 28 prominent history, geography and social studies textbooks, reveals American public school students are being loaded up with indoctrination about Christianity, Judaism, Islam and the Middle East, to the cost of Christianity and Judaism and the benefit of Islam. [...]

The new study by the IJCR found more than 500 erroneous passages in the books, including one textbook that charged that early Jewish civilization contributed little to the arts and sciences.

An excerpt from "World Civilizations," published by Thomson Wadsworth, for example, said, "Excepting the Old Testament's poetry, the Jews produced very little of note in any of the art forms ... There is no record of any important [early] Jewish contributions to the sciences."

The level of outrageousness grew: "Christianity was started by a young Palestinian named Jesus," claims "The World," published by Scott Foresman.

"The textbooks tend to be critical of Jews and Israel, disrespectful about Christianity, and rather than represent Islam in an objective way, tend to glorify it," said co-author Ybarra. "To teach children, for instance, that Jesus was a Palestinian and de-emphasize his Jewishness does a disservice to Christians and Jews as well as anyone who cares about historical accuracy."


[b]Read it all.[/b][/quote]


What major scientific or intelectual advancement did early Jewish civilization contribute aside from the Jewish Scriptures?