Catholics Sold Their Vote To Obama

[philothea]

I just want to know what the $$ for a Catholic vote was. 'Cause nobody offered me anything...

[Norseman82]

[quote name='reelguy227' post='1694630' date='Nov 5 2008, 04:30 PM']Quick question, where in the Catechism or something does it say that its a mortal sin to vote for a pro choice candidate. I' arguing with a caffeteria Catholic who just voted for Obama and she told me not to question here faith. Any quotes/links???[/quote]

There are a few bishops statements here on the website.

If that doesn't work, see if she really understands what abortion does to a baby.

[Guest]

[quote name='Norseman82' post='1694724' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:25 PM']There are a few bishops statements here on the website.

If that doesn't work, see if she really understands what abortion does to a baby.[/quote]

whiile i agree with you i think the church should make an offical statement if this is really how it is. again i agree with you guys.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='StMichael' post='1694657' date='Nov 5 2008, 03:04 PM']54% of Roman Catholics voted for [s]the[/s] [b][color="#FF0000"]an[/color][/b] anti-Christ.[/quote]
fixed it for you.

[Selah]

Ahem...let's exercise some Christian Charity here, please...

My first thought was to pray for the man, not that his money offsets the fires of hell...honestly. He's a father and a husband, and now the next president. He has to deal with a war, a yucky economy, among other things...for goodness sakes people, like I've said throughout this forum, I'm against all he stands for, and I did NOT vote for him...but he's here. He's our next President. As previously stated, remember the One who appoints leaders.

God is not gone. He has not forgotten us. Pray for Obama.

[Guest]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1694728' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:31 PM'] fixed it for you. [/quote]


lil red
whats up ?
thanks for fixing
but is even calling him an antichrist ok ?
the bible says that a antichist is someone who doesnt acknowlege christ came in the flesh.
so how can he be an antichirst ?
i do agree hes a terrible christian and may well be someone jesus says "depart from me i never knew you" (and that could be any one of us to) but at the same time that does not make him an antichrist.
the bible is pretty clear on that.
ok just wondering.
godbless

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[Selah]

[quote]may well be someone jesus says "depart from me i never knew you"[/quote]

Don't even speculate. I pray Jesus never says that to him

[Guest]

[quote name='Selah' post='1694737' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:39 PM']Don't even speculate. I pray Jesus never says that to him [/quote]

your not getting what im saying.
i hope not either.
im saying to even say obama is an antichrist is wrong.
he acknowleges christ came in the flesh therefore he cannot be an antichrist.
the bible is crystal clear on that.
the reason i speculated on the i never knew you thing is because i have had that argument thrown back at me by people who say he could be a or the antichrist.
all im saying is christ may very well say that to him but it still doesnt make him an antichrist
to be an antichirst you have to not acknowlege christ came in the flesh.
obama is not guilty of this.

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[Seven77]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1694739' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:42 PM']your not getting what im saying.
i hope not either.
im saying to even say obama is an antichrist is wrong.
he acknowleges christ came in the flesh therefore he cannot be an antichrist.
the bible is crystal clear on that.
the reason i speculated on the i never knew you thing is because i have had that argument thrown back at me by people who say he could be a or the antichrist.
all im saying is christ may very well say that to him but it still doesnt make him an antichrist
to be an antichirst you have to not acknowlege christ came in the flesh.
obama is not guilty of this.[/quote]

i'm not saying he is an anti-Christ but consider this.... one can profess that Christ came in the flesh while denying it by their actions.

with that being said, we need only to pray for our new President and give those speculations to God to take care of.

[Guest]

[quote name='Seven77' post='1694760' date='Nov 5 2008, 08:04 PM']i'm not saying he is an anti-Christ but consider this.... one can profess that Christ came in the flesh while denying it by their actions.

with that being said, we need only to pray for our new President and give those speculations to God to take care of.[/quote]


o for sure seven77
i agree with you whole heartedly
thats why on judgement day jesus will tell tons of chritians to depart from him and that he never knew them.
so im on the same page with you there.
im just defending hiim on being an antichrist.
and if we go by what scripture says an antichist is someone who doesnt acknowlege Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
bill marhr or however you spell his name pops into my head right away.
i think in the near future were gonna see more and more of these type of people coming out.
they dont believe that Jesus ever walked this earth and there gonna be very sure of it.
revelations talks about it, many antichrist will rise up.
i think obama could be guilty though of helping the "antichirst" agenda, i wont argue that.
like you said he really needs our prayers.
he has a beautiful family and a big task ahead of him in leading our country.

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[StMichael]

Where you one of the 54%? Guess so.

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1694697' date='Nov 5 2008, 06:54 PM']dude shut up seriously[/quote]

[Guest]

[quote name='StMichael' post='1694812' date='Nov 5 2008, 08:36 PM']Where you one of the 54%? Guess so.[/quote]

nope i wasnt buddddddddddddyyyyy

dont make an *** [mod]language -777[/mod] out of yourself by assuming.

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[Guest]

and if your going to go around on a catholic board calling our presidnt the antichrist have some backup. i can backup with scriputre he is neither the antichrist or an antichrist. if you got some new catholic memo that says hes an antichrist or the antichrist then lets see it. i dont think you do. how about you pray for our president who is our brother in christ instead of playing the "im holier then you role and im going to my point my finger at you and call you satan"

peace

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[StMichael]

The Vatican has called the democratic party, "the party of death."

Obama has promised Planned Parenthood his first act as President would be to sign into law FOCA.

Obama opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times.

Forget everything else, just the above makes this man the anti-Christ.




[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1694824' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:43 PM']and if your going to go around on a catholic board calling our presidnt the antichrist have some backup. i can proove with scriputre he is neither the antichrist or an antichrist. if you got some new catholic memo that says hes an antichrist or a antichrist then lets see it. i dont think you do. how about you pray for our president who is our brother in christ instead of playing the "im holier then you role and im going to my point my finger at you and call you satan"

peace[/quote]

[Guest]

[quote name='StMichael' post='1694832' date='Nov 5 2008, 08:52 PM']The Vatican has called the democratic party, "the party of death."

Obama has promised Planned Parenthood his first act as President would be to sign into law FOCA.

Obama opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times.

Forget everything else, just the above makes this man the anti-Christ.[/quote]


dude please your killing me
open your bible
do you own one ?
call him a hypocrit, a murderer, a baby killer, call him a lousy christain, a fake christian, whatever tickles your fancy
but he's not the ANTICHRIST
a antichrist is somoene who does not acknowlege Jesus came in the flesh.
man, what is your problem

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[rkwright]

[quote name='reelguy227' post='1694659' date='Nov 5 2008, 05:08 PM']I guess those might work, but I explictly told her it was against the Church and she told me I had no right to question her faith, then saying that I was basically saying I was the better Catholic.....ugh, people.....[/quote]

Heres the part....

Abortion

2270
Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person—among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.72

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.73

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.74
2271
Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.75

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.76
2272
[i][b]Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.[/b][/i] The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"77 "by the very commission of the offense,"78 and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.79 The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.


Voting= Formal cooperation... maybe... at least thats the argument

[Seven77]

[quote name='StMichael' post='1694832' date='Nov 5 2008, 08:52 PM']The Vatican has called the democratic party, "the party of death."[/quote]

you've got that one all wrong. Archbishop Burke (a Vatican official) said that the democratic party is fast becoming "the party of death."

[kujo]

[quote name='StMichael' post='1694657' date='Nov 5 2008, 06:04 PM']Lead astray? They have taken us with them. 54% of Roman Catholics voted for the anti-Christ.

They defied the Vatican's call who called the Democratic party the party of death. Bishops came out and stated they should not vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

They have ex-communicated themselves from the Church by their defiance.

And millions more children will die because of their interest to get $500 from Obama.[/quote]

They've been lured away from the faith. Where as you appear to be the type to close the door and lock them out, I'm the sorta dude who's gonna run out the door after them, begging them to come back to the Heavenly Table.

But whatever works for ya.

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1694728' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:31 PM'] fixed it for you. [/quote]

BOOYAH!!!!

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1694735' date='Nov 5 2008, 07:37 PM']lil red
whats up ?
thanks for fixing
but is even calling him an antichrist ok ?
the bible says that a antichist is someone who doesnt acknowlege christ came in the flesh.
so how can he be an antichirst ?
i do agree hes a terrible christian and may well be someone jesus says "depart from me i never knew you" (and that could be any one of us to) but at the same time that does not make him an antichrist.
the bible is pretty clear on that.
ok just wondering.
godbless[/quote]

I find the use of the term "anti-Christ" to be the Christian equivalent to calling a Democrat a "socialist" or a "communist." It's a phrase used entirely to bring about an irrational, emotional response while conjuring up fear. It's cr@p and should be taken with enough salt to cause a heart attack!

[quote name='Seven77' post='1694910' date='Nov 5 2008, 09:47 PM']you've got that one all wrong. Archbishop Burke (a Vatican official) said that the democratic party is fast becoming "the party of death."[/quote]

BOOYAH part DEUX!!!

[inDEED]

[quote name='kujo' post='1694337' date='Nov 5 2008, 08:59 AM']Am I the only one who sees a stark difference between a sarcastic comment and an apologetic evangelization by St. Paul?[/quote]

Nope.

[kujo]

[quote name='Seven77' post='1694384' date='Nov 5 2008, 12:38 PM']No.[/quote]


[quote name='inDEED' post='1695062' date='Nov 5 2008, 11:00 PM']Nope.[/quote]

Good. Thought I was going a little there.