Veridicus Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1772193' date='Feb 4 2009, 05:32 PM']Actually, he's pretty snazzy. Wife's hot, too. But not as much as Laura.[/quote] I guess that states all I need to know about your tastes...
Winchester Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 [quote name='Veridicus' post='1772209' date='Feb 4 2009, 05:46 PM']I guess that states all I need to know about your tastes... [/quote] Not really. It's complex.
Nihil Obstat Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1772214' date='Feb 4 2009, 04:53 PM']Not really. It's complex.[/quote] Most guys look good in a good suit. I love 'em, would wear one every day if I could. Unfortunately I'm in highschool. That would be odd. I still get away with a suit jacket once a week or so. A major difference between Obama's idol worship and the 'worship' of Lincoln, FDR, and whoever else was mentioned, is that they 'earned' (obviously that's debatable, but not relevant right now) that admiration through what they did. The be honest, Obama has done very little so far. What we're finding frightening is that all of this praise is being heaped upon him for words, and nothing more. Nothing to back it up. Don't derail my point by talking about what he has done. Comparatively, it's nothing so far. Also irrelevant.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 If he doesn't produce great and amazing results, the backlasha nd backstabbing will be horrendous.
Nihil Obstat Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1775789' date='Feb 8 2009, 08:52 AM']If he doesn't produce great and amazing results, the backlasha nd backstabbing will be horrendous.[/quote] ...and we'll all take a bit of vindictive pleasure in it.......
Veridicus Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1772530' date='Feb 4 2009, 11:10 PM']Most guys look good in a good suit. I love 'em, would wear one every day if I could. Unfortunately I'm in highschool. That would be odd. I still get away with a suit jacket once a week or so. A major difference between Obama's idol worship and the 'worship' of Lincoln, FDR, and whoever else was mentioned, is that they 'earned' (obviously that's debatable, but not relevant right now) that admiration through what they did. The be honest, Obama has done very little so far. What we're finding frightening is that all of this praise is being heaped upon him for words, and nothing more. Nothing to back it up. Don't derail my point by talking about what he has done. Comparatively, it's nothing so far. Also irrelevant.[/quote] Oh come on Nihil....he served in state politics for a few years AND voted "Present" for an [i]entire [/i]3 months in the US Senate before beginning his Presidential Campaign....
Nihil Obstat Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 [quote name='Veridicus' post='1776020' date='Feb 8 2009, 03:45 PM']Oh come on Nihil....he served in state politics for a few years AND voted "Present" for an [i]entire [/i]3 months in the US Senate before beginning his Presidential Campaign.... [/quote] How silly of me to forget. Obviously he's the single most distinguished politician in America.
Veridicus Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 What is IS, if we can judge by his 'extensive' voting record, is that he is easily one of the most liberal politicians in America.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1776009' date='Feb 8 2009, 05:39 PM']...and we'll all take a bit of vindictive pleasure in it....... [/quote] I am thinking of far more serious internal and external responses.
Nihil Obstat Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1776349' date='Feb 8 2009, 08:34 PM']I am thinking of far more serious internal and external responses.[/quote] Don't understand what you mean.
Socrates Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='jkaands' post='1754372' date='Jan 18 2009, 02:11 PM']--Hope for a better president and presidency than the previous catastrophic 8 years, which got us into two wars, one which Bush lied us into starting, spending hundreds of billions of dollars on, which killed and maimed tens of thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, which we didn't win; NOT finding bin Laden; and not engaging sufficiently in the second war, in Afghanistan, where the real enemy lies; deregulating the economy, to 'bring on' a MAJOR depression, the worst since the Great Depression, and one which may eventually rival it; [b]turning a [i]billion dollar surplus[/i] (under Clinton) in domestic spending into a [i]trillion dollar deficit[/i][/b] . . .[/quote] This is in contrast to the thrifty and frugal spending policies of Barrack Obama?
Winchester Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 People who've not read a single page of the Pentagon report on Iraq probably shouldn't speculate on the current war or the reasons for entering the war. The media dumbed it down and made it a single issue.
Hassan Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' post='1777329' date='Feb 9 2009, 10:30 PM']People who've not read a single page of the Pentagon report on Iraq probably shouldn't speculate on the current war or the reasons for entering the war.[/quote] If that's the one I'm thinking of the parts I read were interesting. I never knew he funded Kurdish terrorists to attack Kurdish communist party headquarters (not that I knew there were active communist parties in the region in the first place ), or a lot of the nuances of the political situation of the region. Wh . [quote]The media dumbed it down and made it a single issue.[/quote] That doesn't sound like the media I know Edited February 10, 2009 by Hassan
Nihil Obstat Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1777329' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:30 PM']People who've not read a single page of the Pentagon report on Iraq probably shouldn't speculate on the current war or the reasons for entering the war. The media dumbed it down and made it a single issue.[/quote] You mean you greedy Americans aren't looting and pillaging all the Iraqi oil with the flimsy and transparent excuse of "weapons of mass destruction" to divert attention?!?!!???!1/!!/!?!!?!1!!/!?@?!?!!?
Hassan Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1777450' date='Feb 9 2009, 11:49 PM']You mean you greedy Americans aren't looting and pillaging all the Iraqi oil with the flimsy and transparent excuse of "weapons of mass destruction" to divert attention?!?!!???!1/!!/!?!!?!1!!/!?@?!?!!?[/quote] I don't think any serious person thinks that. That does not mean that oil and the geopolitical reality of Iraq's role in the world oil supply was not a consideration, which I think more people advocating your position would suggust. I believe Alen Greenspan wrote about this briefly in his book.
Nihil Obstat Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1777464' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:58 PM']I don't think any serious person thinks that. That does not mean that oil and the geopolitical reality of Iraq's role in the world oil supply was not a consideration, which I think more people advocating your position would suggust. I believe Alen Greenspan wrote about this briefly in his book.[/quote] Actually I know people that believe that, just because that's what they hear and they don't even think to question. We are Canadian, so it's not as intimate a problem... but still. How ignorant.
Winchester Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Unless it is a response to invasion, no nation goes to war for one reason.
T-Bone _ Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1777464' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:58 PM']I don't think any serious person thinks that. That does not mean that oil and the geopolitical reality of Iraq's role in the world oil supply was not a consideration, which I think more people advocating your position would suggust. I believe Alen Greenspan wrote about this briefly in his book.[/quote] I know people who think that. It's scary--they're otherwise half-way intelligent people.
picchick Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Is this thread contributing to the hysteria that is causing idol worship to President Obama?
Hassan Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1777618' date='Feb 10 2009, 12:58 AM']Unless it is a response to invasion, no nation goes to war for one reason.[/quote] It's almost like you're saying these geopolitical events are complex phenomena not reducible to simple, one dimensional explinations
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