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[dUSt]

Homeboy needs a better web designer.

[Galloglasses' Alt]

Werd

[kafka]

I've known him for a few years. His writings are highly speculative and controversial. He has taught me a lot about the Faith, but I am by no means a follower of him.

As far as his predictions about the future are concerned, I dont know, we'll see.

I'm more interested in his insights into eschatology based on Sacred Scripture, and less interested with all his dates. I've made it a practice to expand on some fine points of his eschatology, since I think he has come up with the best insights of any Catholic theologian in this branch of theology. He also practices other branches of theology.

[Socrates]

Is this the dude who "prophesied" that Hillary would win in '08?

[picchick]

[quote name='kafka' post='1731572' date='Dec 18 2008, 06:38 PM']He also practices other branches of theology.[/quote]

Such as?

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1731647' date='Dec 18 2008, 07:21 PM']Is this the dude who "prophesied" that Hillary would win in '08?[/quote]
Yes, in his [i]Furture Map - Part 1[/i] he predicts the following:

[quote]In the year 2009 A.D.

[indent]* U.S. President Hillary Clinton changes her mind about abortion and becomes prolife
* It is a year of great success for the prolife cause[/indent][/quote]

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='picchick' post='1731798' date='Dec 18 2008, 09:27 PM']Such as?[/quote]
Maybe . . . Alternate Universe Theology?

[picchick]

I am not making fun of the guy. I think that he is faulty and his site, to me, reeks of arrogance. People can say that of me by judging my posts of course. I wouldn't mind because they probably do. However, his judgements on what women should and should not do and on how sex should and should not be are just really out there.

The fact that he has to approve you to join his forum also irks me a certain way. Why must people be approved? He claims so that no one is against the Church teachings. However, how do people grow in faith without questioning and turning stuff over in their heads? I get the feeling that the minute that someone states or questions something contrary to Church teaching...or more importantly HIS teaching and thoughts they are booted off the forum.

Something about this guy just does not sit well with me. This is my gut feeling though.

[kafka]

[quote name='picchick' post='1731798' date='Dec 18 2008, 11:27 PM']Such as?[/quote]
Dogmatic Theology, Moral Theology, Speculative Theology. His articles and books often mix Dogmatic, Ordinary, and Speculative Theology. His books and articles include insights into the Trinity, Mariology, Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium, obviously Eschatology, Biblical Chronology, and some other areas. He is also translating the Bible from the Latin Vulgate.

As far as I know he has several more books lined up to be released for the future, including two more works of Eschatology.

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1731809' date='Dec 19 2008, 12:05 AM']Yes, in his [i]Furture Map - Part 1[/i] he predicts the following:[/quote]
He publicly admits he was wrong, though this prediction of his wasnt based on Sacred Scripture, it was his interpretation of providence, of which was obviously wrong. As far as I know he still thinks Clinton will eventually become president.


His teachings on roles of men and women, and sexual ethics seem strict when compared to the standards of secular society and modern theological errors (now rampant in the Church), yet they reflect constant Church teaching through the ages, and in my opinion reflect sound reasoning concerning God's plan for society and the nature and purpose of marriage and sexual relations.


Here are some of my random reflections concerning Conte:

He is controversial figure. As time passes he might as well continue to be more and more controversial. He is not beyond criticism, yet at this point he is beyond ridicule. He is a deep thinker, with some profound, fresh, and groundbreaking insights into the Deposit of Faith who has been practicing theology for many years. His writings and teachings may contain some minor errors and faults here and there, yet after having read most of his works and known him for a few years, I cannot help but say that his writings are valuable to the Catholic Church and will be valuable for generations to come. That being said, I'm not from the future so only time will tell.

In the mean time if anyone decides to read his works read them with a critical mind, and always fall back on Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium. I dont care who the theologian is. Whether he is Aquinas, Augustine, etc. if a theologian (or anyone) teaches one thing and Christ and His Church teaches another thing, follow Christ, not the theologian. Aquinas and Augustine and many other theologians were wrong on some points.

[picchick]

[quote name='kafka' post='1732175' date='Dec 19 2008, 05:22 PM']His teachings on roles of men and women, and sexual ethics seem strict when compared to the standards of secular society and modern theological errors (now rampant in the Church), yet they reflect constant Church teaching through the ages, and in my opinion reflect sound reasoning concerning God's plan for society and the nature and purpose of marriage and sexual relations.[/quote]

Again, not to beat a dead horse but this is not really what you think...because if that were true then you would not have been so inconsistent in your other posts when I confronting you about the same thing.

[kafka]

[quote name='picchick' post='1732462' date='Dec 20 2008, 02:14 AM']Again, not to beat a dead horse but this is not really what you think...because if that were true then you would not have been so inconsistent in your other posts when I confronting you about the same thing.[/quote]
you are beating a

[picchick]

[quote name='kafka' post='1732522' date='Dec 20 2008, 08:04 AM']you are beating a[/quote]

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[Galloglasses' Alt]

Picchick take it easy, Kafka's post got cut off on him.

[dairygirl4u2c]

he predicts April 9, 2009 to be monumental to the world.
we will soon see.

he also is famous for predicting PJII's death. people made fun of him for being wrong, but he was only a year off. and, he even guessed B16 would be called B16 back when JP2 was alive.

(hillary is in line ot be pres as per vice pres then sec of state etc, and might e in the future... if that's the case, then he might not be too far off. at any rate, even he acknowledges some of his points will be in err)

he predicts firmly that jesus will return, the year.
and the other dates he's firm about.

personally, he seems liek a Dbag. hard core types, are always fun to watch suffer being wrong.
i think he might be right on a lot, but he's still a Dbag, and it will still be fun to watch him squirm when he's wrong.

Edited December 20, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[mortify]

Funny, I was just about to post about his [b]April 10, 2008[/b] prediction for something to occur that will affect the world.

Edited December 20, 2008 by mortify

[dairygirl4u2c]

you mean, that it was merely a coincidence i posted about it?

or, are you saying he made a prediction that was wrong? ie, you said 2008, not 09.
i wasn't aware he made one back then if that is the case.

his reasoning for april 09 is based on garabandal and some other prophesiies, and he says if it's not to occur then, then it'd be like another fiftten years, he hints at that anyway.

[mortify]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1732700' date='Dec 20 2008, 05:43 PM']you mean, that it was merely a coincidence i posted about it?

or, are you saying he made a prediction that was wrong? ie, you said 2008, not 09.
i wasn't aware he made one back then if that is the case.

his reasoning for april 09 is based on garabandal and some other prophesiies, and he says if it's not to occur then, then it'd be like another fiftten years, he hints at that anyway.[/quote]


My mistake, I meant April 10, [b]2009[/b]

[Noel's angel]

Kinda reminds me of Old Moore's Alamanc. BTW, that's NOT a good thing....

And also, wearing trousers is not leading me away from God. Nor would having short hair. This boy's ideas are a bit loopy.

Oh goodness, you HAVE to read this bit:
[b]
"Modesty is a separate issue. A woman wearing modest pants still offends God, not by lack of modesty, but by dressing like a man. A woman wearing an immodest skirt or dress offends God less than a woman wearing a modest pair of pants."[/b]

WHAT!?


[b]Women should not be on the parish council, for this is a leadership role which assists the pastor, much as the Twelve Apostles assisted Christ. [/b]

Edited December 20, 2008 by Noel's angel

[mortify]

[quote name='Noel's angel' post='1732713' date='Dec 20 2008, 06:32 PM'][b]
"Modesty is a separate issue. A woman wearing modest pants still offends God, not by lack of modesty, but by dressing like a man. A woman wearing an immodest skirt or dress offends God less than a woman wearing a modest pair of pants."[/b]

WHAT!?


[b]Women should not be on the parish council, for this is a leadership role which assists the pastor, much as the Twelve Apostles assisted Christ. [/b][/quote]

Maybe he's right

[Noel's angel]

Or not.

How can wearing a skirt in which others can see your bottom be more modest (and less sinful) than wearing well-fitting trousers? It makes no sense.

Edited December 20, 2008 by Noel's angel