The Sspx

[Resurrexi]

I'm pretty sure that's the standard for most EFs. I think, though, that the epistle and gospel in English only will probably become the norm in the foreseeable future.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1776558' date='Feb 8 2009, 10:52 PM']Is there something wrong with rad-trads (as long as the accept all the teachings of the Church, including the Second Vatican Council)?[/quote]
Not technically speaking, no.
I don't agree with every aspect of what they say. Some, but not all.
I'm not one. For my age group, I'd be considered pretty traditionalist, but on Phatmass I'm a pretty middle-of-the-road pragmatist I think.

My parents think I'm a rad trad nut though. I don't think they understand the finer points, to be honest.

Edited February 9, 2009 by Nihil Obstat

[CatholicCid]

Ah, the joys of having your own car

Means I can go (as long as I have gas!)


I'm the same way Nihil. In real life, I'm considered quite a traditionalist, even to the point where a friend suggested one Catholic newspaper to me over another because "This one is only a little conservative, so you may not like it, but this one would fit you as it's much more traditional."
Here though, I seem much less I'm sure.

Edited February 9, 2009 by CatholicCid

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1776563' date='Feb 9 2009, 12:56 AM']Not technically speaking, no.
I don't agree with every aspect of what they say. Some, but not all.
I'm not one. For my age group, I'd be considered pretty traditionalist, but on Phatmass I'm a pretty middle-of-the-road pragmatist I think.

My parents think I'm a rad trad nut though. I don't think they understand the finer points, to be honest.[/quote]
I think on the outside world spectrum, I'd be considered here:
R=Radtrad, L=Liberal, |-middle of the road
R-*----|-----L
Phatmass:
R---*--|-----L
Actually, that would be kind of a fun thread.
Someone should start that.

Edited February 9, 2009 by USAirwaysIHS

[Nihil Obstat]

I'll try the same.


My scale:

R=traditional
L=liberal.

Outside world: (all religions)

L____________|___R

Outside world: (Catholicism)

L__________|_____R

Phatmass:

L_______|________R

[Apotheoun]

I love the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom too much to consider attending an SSPX chapel on a regular basis.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1776558' date='Feb 9 2009, 12:52 AM']Is there something wrong with rad-trads (as long as the accept all the teachings of the Church, including the Second Vatican Council)?[/quote]
It does stand for [i]radical [/i]traditionalists.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1776602' date='Feb 9 2009, 01:19 AM']It does stand for [i]radical [/i]traditionalists.[/quote]
I saw a youtube video about a community of sisters or something, and one had a good point.
She was asked if she thought living the way they did was radical.
She said that "radical" means "root", and that they're living their life for the root of life, Jesus, so yes, it is radical. (Something like that, I'm sure I didn't do it justice)
So I guess being going back to the root of tradition isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Nihil Obstat]

Depends on how you define radical.
After all, politically it will generally refer to a hardline Communist.

[CatholicCid]

It's semantics. I think it can be used either with a positive or negative connotation.

My general rule is, if someone is in full communion with the Vicar of Christ and the Catholic Church, then they're cool with me. If not, we're going to need to have a chat.

Edited February 9, 2009 by CatholicCid

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1776602' date='Feb 9 2009, 12:19 AM']It does stand for [i]radical [/i]traditionalists.[/quote]

What's wrong with being radical?

[CatholicCid]

Well, radical can also mean "extreme", which can at times be a bit strong.

E.g. Radical Traditionalist could be used to say someone who is so extreme a traditionalist, they reject any Church proclamations, councils, ect... before X time period.

Really just depends on semantics.

[InHisLove726]

There aren't any SSPX Chapels near my home, but there is a Church that celebrates the High Mass that is in full Communion with Rome. They celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass too. I've wanted to go there (even though it's a rather long drive) ever since I found out one of my friends attended. They have Communion rails, too, which I have only seen at a Chapel in St. Louis that belonged to the Carmelite Sisters of the Divine Heart of Jesus, who celebrate the Latin Mass once a month. Hopefully, one day, I'll make it to the Church as it is very beautiful! I've heard the bells toll while I've been close to it.

[Apotheoun]

It is not a matter of semantics, but etymology. The word "radical" comes from the Latin "radicalis" which means "of or having roots," and for Christians the true "root" of all things is Christ.

[qfnol31]

Why go to the SSPX chapels if you can go to Mass where two Justices go...

Of course, there's always my work on Sunday which prevents me from going anywhere...

That said, I'm not sure I trust the attitude of those who go to Mass. Perhaps I've been reading too much in theology, but I do understand the idea that community is important in a certain sense. (I'm too tired to explain how I've not gone liberal here tonight, but I will later.)