track2004 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Anyone a fan of The Watchmen (the graphic novel) and totally stoked about the new movie? Anyone want to talk about how different the theory of heroes is in The Watchmen as compared to previous comics & graphic novels? Any comments on the morality of either? "But the world is so full of ... miracles that they become commonplace and we forget... I forget. We gaze continually at the world and it grows dull in our perceptions. Yet seen from the another's vantage point. As if new, it may still take our breath away." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I thought the previews looked really good. I'm often not that into graphic novels though. Unfortunately I can't get in to see it. Dunno what they rated it in the States, but I'm relatively sure it's 18A here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicke Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Well, most of the Watchmen were based on Charlton Comics heroes. Originally Watchmen was meant to be an introduction of these heroes to the DC universe when DC bought the Charlton assets in 1985. They decided to make the story independent due to the reluctance to kill off certain characters. If you look up these characters on the web, you can see the similarities. Peacemaker = The Comedian The Question = Rorschach Nightshade = Silk Specter Blue Beetle = Night Owl Mr Atom = Doctor Manhattan Thunderbolt = Ozymandias I was working at a comic shop when Watchmen came out. I can remember picking the new DC titles with the Charlton characters they did after Watchmen for nostalgia sake (no pun intended). I was mostly disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Who was the cool guy in the hat and trenchcoat? Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1778919' date='Feb 11 2009, 03:17 PM']Who was the cool guy in the hat and trenchcoat? Hehe.[/quote] Cobra Commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
track2004 Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 COBRA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 ...Rorschach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasmguy126 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1778706' date='Feb 11 2009, 09:51 AM']I thought the previews looked really good. I'm often not that into graphic novels though. Unfortunately I can't get in to see it. Dunno what they rated it in the States, but I'm relatively sure it's 18A here.[/quote] Here in the States it is rated R for graphic violence, sexuality, nudity and language. What else should one expect from a movie directed by the guy who made "300" and "Sin City"? Superhero movies usually aren't R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1778919' date='Feb 11 2009, 03:17 PM']Who was the cool guy in the hat and trenchcoat? Hehe.[/quote] Kelly Leak from "The Bad News Bears" ...the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 [quote name='sarcasmguy126' post='1797199' date='Mar 4 2009, 09:15 AM']Here in the States it is rated R for graphic violence, sexuality, nudity and language. What else should one expect from a movie directed by the guy who made "300" and "Sin City"? Superhero movies usually aren't R.[/quote] There's a slight chance I can get into it in Canada though. I actually haven't looked if it's 14A or 18A. The Canadian censors are awful; I have a feeling that half of their job description is to drink until they can't see straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 14A everywhere in Canada except Ontario (18A) and Quebec (13+ because they're weird like that). I rest my case. Absolutely hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 [quote name='sarcasmguy126' post='1797199' date='Mar 4 2009, 11:15 AM']Here in the States it is rated R for graphic violence, sexuality, nudity and language. What else should one expect from a movie directed by the guy who made "300" and "Sin City"? Superhero movies usually aren't R.[/quote] Actually, director Zack Snyder directed [i]300[/i], but not [i]Sin City[/i], which was directed by Robert Rodriguez with Frank Miller (with a segment by "guest director" Quentin Tarantino). Frank Miller wrote and drew the [i]300[/i] and [i]Sin City[/i] comics on which those movies were (very closely) based. [i]Watchmen[/i] is based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore, who also wrote [i]V for Vendetta[/i] (among other things). I haven't watched it yet (Bubblicious wants me to watch it tomorrow at the same time she does, though we're now in different states), but apparently it for the most part follows the book very closely though, by necessity, large parts are omitted. The adult content is found in the source novel - it's definitely not a story for kids, but a dark and complex satire/drama, despite the "superhero" theme. The comic is quite entertaining in its geeky way. It's a brilliantly told (if extremely cynical) story, despite the fact that I don't agree with a lot of the far-left underpinnings of the tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 [quote name='Socrates' post='1799406' date='Mar 6 2009, 11:34 PM']Actually, director Zack Snyder directed [i]300[/i], but not [i]Sin City[/i], which was directed by Robert Rodriguez with Frank Miller (with a segment by "guest director" Quentin Tarantino). Frank Miller wrote and drew the [i]300[/i] and [i]Sin City[/i] comics on which those movies were (very closely) based. [i]Watchmen[/i] is based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore, who also wrote [i]V for Vendetta[/i] (among other things). I haven't watched it yet (Bubblicious wants me to watch it tomorrow at the same time she does, though we're now in different states), but apparently it for the most part follows the book very closely though, by necessity, large parts are omitted. The adult content is found in the source novel - it's definitely not a story for kids, but a dark and complex satire/drama, despite the "superhero" theme. The comic is quite entertaining in its geeky way. It's a brilliantly told (if extremely cynical) story, despite the fact that I don't agree with a lot of the far-left underpinnings of the tale.[/quote] Dude, you're gonna love it. If you can swing it, you should see it on IMAX. In the words of Kevin Smith, who reviewed it a while back after seeing a sneak preview, it is an opus that does everything you'd want it to do. I was really afraid that it was gonna smell of elderberries, despite the fact that I figured Synder would be the only director I could see coming close to pulling it off. And yeah, there's stuff that's omitted (not "large parts," though the ending is a bit different) but, for the most part, it's minor things that wouldn't have contributed much to the overall movie experience. Dude, you're gonna love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 [size=1]For the longest time I was SO excited to see this movie! I havnt seen it yet, but my desire to see it has now gone so it doesnt matter. My brother saw the midnight showing thursday night and told me the next day that yes, it was pretty darn cool, but there was alot more nudity than he expected. I am to understand that the blue superhero guy is pretty much letting his little willy sway freely without much censorship for many scenes. There is also a 3 minute sex scene that shows more nudity and I just don’t think that any of this is necessary at all. That just kinda turned me off to the movie. Im sure the other elements of the movie such as action, special effects, etc are really great, but I no longer want to spend the money on it. My friends bf saw it on friday and said it was a huge waste of his time. He thought it was pretty gross. So I dunno. Tis my take. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I heard a reviewer mention "far-left undertones". Is that a legitimate point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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