Well That Was Weird

[Jaime]

[quote name='MIkolbe' post='1798303' date='Mar 5 2009, 04:40 PM']wow..

do you really believe that, or are you playing devil's advocate?[/quote]

Actually Jason, Ironmonk is right. In fact last year I was the Executive Director for a pro-life crisis pregnancy center here in town. And during that time while I was counseling abortion minded women to consider placing their child for adoption

I was completely against all child safety laws.

"Let them run with scissors" I used to say. You could have had a toddler bungeed to the roof rack and I wouldn't have cared. I often gave kids knitting needles. I don't know if they found them fun or not, I just thought "why not?"*








*parts of this post may contain the recommended daily dosage of irony.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='ironmonk' post='1798266' date='Mar 5 2009, 02:06 PM']Maybe spend the time, effort, and stress over babies murdered in the womb or shortly after leaving it.

God Bless,
ironmonk[/quote]+J.M.J.+
once again, your judgmental attitude fails to astound. how do you know prose doesn't already do pro-life activities? (pretty sure she's a witness to pro-life-ness already since she's pregnant with her third girl )

[MIKolbe]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1798554' date='Mar 5 2009, 06:56 PM']Actually Jason, Ironmonk is right. In fact last year I was the Executive Director for a pro-life crisis pregnancy center here in town. And during that time while I was counseling abortion minded women to consider placing their child for adoption

I was completely against all child safety laws.

"Let them run with scissors" I used to say. You could have had a toddler bungeed to the roof rack and I wouldn't have cared. I often gave kids knitting needles. I don't know if they found them fun or not, I just thought "why not?"*


*parts of this post may contain the recommended daily dosage of irony.[/quote]

Good points..

I never examined the mutual exclusivity of it all.

[ReinnieR]

that was an awkward situation. when i was growing up i never hear do child safety seats. i was never in a child safety seat as an infant and i'm fine.

But the laws in United States are different i probably would've called the cops.

i don't know i really don't know.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='ReinnieR' post='1798661' date='Mar 5 2009, 08:33 PM']i was never in a child safety seat as an infant and i'm fine.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
and yet there are probably many people who aren't here who did die in auto accidents as children in the 1950s and 60s.

[Jaime]

When I was a kid, you could smoke on planes and in movie theaters.

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='ReinnieR' post='1798661' date='Mar 5 2009, 11:33 PM']that was an awkward situation. when i was growing up i never hear do child safety seats. i was never in a child safety seat as an infant and i'm fine.

But the laws in United States are different i probably would've called the cops.

i don't know i really don't know.[/quote]

Korea is still pretty much the same way. They have car seats but I never saw it strictly enforced while I was there. It made me nervous getting into taxis because they drove like madmen over there. I always buckled up my older two and had Charlotte strapped tightly to my body with the baby carrier.

Here in the States, though, it's a different story. Not only is the child in danger but laws are being broken. Many states require children to be in car seats or boosters until they are at least 6-8 years old (or anywhere from 40-80lbs). It would be one thing if the child was 4 or 5 and not in a car seat despite what the laws say, there are reasonable excuses for that and even loopholes in the laws of some states that allow for it. But an infant?? They should be in a car seat that is properly secured. Even a minor fender bender could result in injury for a child that isn't properly secured. Why risk it? (I'm not arguing with you, Rei, I'm just wordy. haha)

[prose]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1798559' date='Mar 5 2009, 07:59 PM']+J.M.J.+
once again, your judgmental attitude fails to astound. how do you know prose doesn't already do pro-life activities? (pretty sure she's a witness to pro-life-ness already since she's pregnant with her third girl )[/quote]

lol... yep. pretty judgemental.

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1798988' date='Mar 6 2009, 11:52 AM']When I was a kid, you could smoke on planes and in movie theaters.[/quote]

I hate hate hate the "when I was a kid they did X and it didn't kill me" argument.

When I was a child, people smoked while pregnant... 50 years ago, alcohol during pregnancy was no big deal... When I was a child my mom smoked in the nursery... None of it killed me. So why should I interfere if anyone does it now?

Being pro-life does not end when a child comes out of the womb, it continues through life until natural death.

[ReinnieR]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1798988' date='Mar 6 2009, 01:52 PM']When I was a kid, you could smoke on planes and in movie theaters.[/quote]
I'm not [b][i]that[/i][/b] old.

[ReinnieR]

[quote name='prose' post='1799073' date='Mar 6 2009, 03:47 PM']I hate hate hate the "when I was a kid they did X and it didn't kill me" argument.[/quote]
sorry just sharing

[Jesus_lol]

what a surprise, all the people you talk to from the different eras are still alive. suppose that means that since a few war veterans are still around then War cant have been THAT dangerous?




[quote name='ironmonk' post='1798266' date='Mar 5 2009, 02:06 PM']Maybe spend the time, effort, and stress over babies murdered in the womb or shortly after leaving it.[/quote]

so i guess once they are born we can just start them on a diet of mercury, lead paint and second hand smoke as well?

[Jaime]

When I was a kid, heroin was used for medicinal purposes

[MIKolbe]

When I was a kid, hot stuff was still kinda old.

Iono how that fits in...but there ya go.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1799658' date='Mar 7 2009, 09:01 AM']When I was a kid, heroin was used for medicinal purposes[/quote]
Its brothers and sisters still are

[Norseman82]

An alternative would be to catch up with them to thank them, and if you see that the car seat is not properly secured (and there are no males in the car that either fight in the UFC or bench more than you) you can find a way to ask if the car seat can be secured properly whene it is on the floor.

[quote name='ironmonk' post='1796830' date='Mar 3 2009, 09:56 PM']Many of us grew up in a time that our parents didn't have car seats, and shocker... we lived. ;o)[/quote]

When I was growing up, I don't even know if those car seats had even been invented yet! And when I hear news reports that there are pushes for for laws to make people as old a TWELVE be in car seats, well, that is taking it TOO FAR (I can understand infants, but when I was twelve, it would have been considered degrading).

Interesting story: when I was growing up one of the Saturday morning routines was to go with my dad on his weekly trek to get his cigars. Well, one day when I was about six or seven he had to stop VERY quickly...and I did not have my seat belt on (in fact, shoulder belts were not the norm back then, just the old lap belts)..and I was in the front seat...but not for long. My head hit the front window and the window cracked. We didn't go to the doctor, and my dad got his cigars. When we got home and my dad told my mom what happened, my mom was worried and asked if I was OK, I can still remember in my head my dad responding, "Yeah, HE'S OK, but the window......".

(I'm sure a lot of you are now saying that explains a lot of things!)