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How would you feel about a Jehova's Whitness doctor being allowed to refuse to give you an emergency blood transfusion because it violated his or her moral principals?

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[quote name='Hassan' post='1807815' date='Mar 15 2009, 07:02 PM']How would you feel about a Jehova's Whitness doctor being allowed to refuse to give you an emergency blood transfusion because it violated his or her moral principals?[/quote]
JWs aren't MDs.

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1807818' date='Mar 15 2009, 06:07 PM']JWs aren't MDs.[/quote]

ok, a doctor who, for whatever reason, believes blood transfusions are gravely immoral.

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[quote name='Hassan' post='1807815' date='Mar 15 2009, 06:02 PM']How would you feel about a Jehova's Whitness doctor being allowed to refuse to give you an emergency blood transfusion because it violated his or her moral principals?[/quote]
Well that's an emergent matter, isn't it? Bad analogy. A better one:

How would we feel about a convenience store not carrying our brand of soft drink? Procured abortion is a matter of convenience, not life or death.

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KnightofChrist

[quote name='Winchester' post='1807821' date='Mar 15 2009, 05:09 PM']Well that's an emergent matter, isn't it? Bad analogy. A better one:

How would we feel about a convenience store not carrying our brand of soft drink? Procured abortion is a matter of convenience, not life or death.[/quote]


Yeap.

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[quote name='Winchester' post='1807821' date='Mar 15 2009, 06:09 PM']Well that's an emergent matter, isn't it? Bad analogy. A better one:[/quote]


I wasn't trying to craft an analogy. I wanted to get some idea of what she considered appropiate with regards to doctors dispensing medical treatment in accords with their personal moral beliefs. If she would force a doctor to give a blood transfusion to save a life then she does not consider a doctors personal morals sacrosanct with regards to molding their professional activities. From there we could do a dialectic until we arrive at a close understanding of what her position actually is and then see how it relates to this case.

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[quote name='Hassan' post='1807824' date='Mar 15 2009, 06:14 PM']I wasn't trying to craft an analogy. I wanted to get some idea of what she considered appropiate with regards to doctors dispensing medical treatment in accords with their personal moral beliefs. If she would force a doctor to give a blood transfusion to save a life then she does not consider a doctors personal morals sacrosanct with regards to molding their professional activities. From there we could do a dialectic until we arrive at a close understanding of what her position actually is and then see how it relates to this case.[/quote]
I accept your surrender.

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HisChildForever

[quote name='Winchester' post='1807835' date='Mar 15 2009, 06:26 PM']Honestly, I'm a little confused by your tactics, so I'm going to act tough until I figure it out.[/quote]

His tactic is to drum up a ridiculous analogy that does not even [i]compare[/i] to the actual point of discussion in order to make the Catholic opinion look absurd. Refusing to administer a blood transfusion is not even [i]close[/i] to refusing to abort a child.

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[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1807841' date='Mar 15 2009, 05:39 PM']His tactic is to drum up a ridiculous analogy that does not even [i]compare[/i] to the actual point of discussion in order to make the Catholic opinion look absurd. Refusing to administer a blood transfusion is not even [i]close[/i] to refusing to abort a child.[/quote]

With all due respect you and Madam V may wish to stop explaining my motives, beliefs, and tactics to other as neither of you are, let us say, very gifted at discerning them.


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I wasn't trying to craft an analogy. I wanted to get some idea of what she considered appropiate with regards to doctors dispensing medical treatment in accords with their personal moral beliefs. If she would force a doctor to give a blood transfusion to save a life then she does not consider a doctors personal morals sacrosanct with regards to molding their professional activities. From there we could do a dialectic until we arrive at a close understanding of what her position actually is and then see how it relates to this case.[/i]

That is my tactic.

Nothing more and nothing less.

Now you say refusing to administer a blood transfusion is not even close to refusing to abort a baby. I guess with regards to a doctors personal moral beliefs I'd have to ask your methodology at determining that.

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Hassan' post='1807824' date='Mar 15 2009, 07:14 PM']I wasn't trying to craft an analogy. I wanted to get some idea of what she considered appropiate with regards to doctors dispensing medical treatment in accords with their personal moral beliefs. If she would force a doctor to give a blood transfusion to save a life then she does not consider a doctors personal morals sacrosanct with regards to molding their professional activities. From there we could do a dialectic until we arrive at a close understanding of what her position actually is and then see how it relates to this case.[/quote]
Doctors already dispense medical treatment according to their personal belief. You don't leave your personal beliefs at the door unless you are a politician.

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1807854' date='Mar 15 2009, 06:09 PM']Doctors already dispense medical treatment according to their personal belief. You don't leave your personal beliefs at the door unless you are a politician.[/quote]


Sure, but I would like to know what you consider an accecptable range of behavior in this regard. Would you support a doctor not giving an emergency blood transfusion because it was contrary to his moral beliefs?

I don't care so much about that question as figuring out what the range is for you.

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