InHisLove726 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Does anyone feel as uncomfortable about Folk Masses as I do? I absolutely despise the songs that are song. One night, I had to go to one since I was unable to go in the morning and one of the choir members sang "Healing River." I felt like I was in a Protestant church! The choir members participate more in the Mass than the priest does, and I don't like that. Am I being factitious?? The offering of the Mass is always enjoyable, but I wish the Folk music and group would just be done away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I know what you mean. A folksy song was sung at the Palm Sunday Mass at Notre Dame when my mom and I stopped by the campus. I also heard some folksy songs sung well not at a mass but a Rite of Election service for RCIA once at a cathedral. It didn't make sense. So many people were entering the catholic church and yet protestant-like songs were sung? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Is it right? Let's ask another question: which Church document upholds/encourages/prescribes "folk" masses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 [quote name='InHisLove726' post='1814214' date='Mar 22 2009, 08:57 PM']Does anyone feel as uncomfortable about Folk Masses as I do? I absolutely despise the songs that are song. One night, I had to go to one since I was unable to go in the morning and one of the choir members sang "Healing River." I felt like I was in a Protestant church! The choir members participate more in the Mass than the priest does, and I don't like that. Am I being factitious?? The offering of the Mass is always enjoyable, but I wish the Folk music and group would just be done away with. [/quote] I think its appropriate if you are out in the woods with two hundred scouts but no where else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1816196' date='Mar 25 2009, 01:14 PM']I think its appropriate if you are out in the woods with two hundred scouts but no where else.[/quote] even then, I think it makes a more profound statement when the mass is present in such a location in as much of its majesty as possible... Karol Wvoytiwa (sp?) said a Tridentine Mass on an upside-down canoe with the oars tied together as a cross for the youth who went with him on hikes... granted, it was probably a low mass, but perhaps at least some of the kids present had been trained through Catholic schooling to sing in a schola and they might've had some majestic chanting and such... so yeah, I don't think it's appropriate even in that setting, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1816791' date='Mar 26 2009, 02:12 AM']even then, I think it makes a more profound statement when the mass is present in such a location in as much of its majesty as possible... Karol Wvoytiwa (sp?) said a Tridentine Mass on an upside-down canoe with the oars tied together as a cross for the youth who went with him on hikes... granted, it was probably a low mass, but perhaps at least some of the kids present had been trained through Catholic schooling to sing in a schola and they might've had some majestic chanting and such... so yeah, I don't think it's appropriate even in that setting, myself.[/quote] O I think its very appropriate to the setting of mountains and lakes in a cathedral of trees made by the Creator himself. 200 children singing Dona Nobis Pacem as a round is as good as a schola. I just dont' think its appropriate for anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 well, that sounds fine; but that's not what I think of when I think "folk music"... just because it's a round doesn't mean it is folksy, in my opinion... Dona Nobis Pacem sung as a round dates back to the 16th century, composed by Bach. That would be probably be appropriate in any Church, maybe especially out in the woods, but come now, is that really what is meant by "folk mass"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1816943' date='Mar 26 2009, 01:09 PM']well, that sounds fine; but that's not what I think of when I think "folk music"... just because it's a round doesn't mean it is folksy, in my opinion... Dona Nobis Pacem sung as a round dates back to the 16th century, composed by Bach. That would be probably be appropriate in any Church, maybe especially out in the woods, but come now, is that really what is meant by "folk mass"?[/quote] Not sure. I was in the folk Mass at church ages ago and we did P & W, but the new priest put a stop to that. I wasn't comfortable doing it anyway, and and no problems stopping. Do many churches still do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 What exactly defines a 'folk mass'? I'm trying to follow the thread, but I think I missed a definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHisLove726 Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1817160' date='Mar 26 2009, 02:53 PM']What exactly defines a 'folk mass'? I'm trying to follow the thread, but I think I missed a definition.[/quote] I said "folk Mass" but I really should have said "Catholic Mass with folk music." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 yeah, that's what I think it means: a mass with folk music. I personally don't have any examples I could think of off hand of what music would be used at such a mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridicus Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 [quote name='tinytherese' post='1814230' date='Mar 22 2009, 07:23 PM']...It didn't make sense. So many people were entering the catholic church and yet protestant-like songs were sung? [/quote] Anymore it doesn't surprise me. Sometimes I'm afraid I'm gonna look up ecumenism in the dictionary and its gonna say "the diluting of belief and liturgical practice coupled with space age architecture and trendy music." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 If anyone does have some examples of it, I'd be really interested. I have heard "folk" in the context of "so and so plays in the folk group at church" ... but I am at a loss as to what it actually is. Is it specifically guitar music, or the more general category of "praise and worship"? I am thinking in terms of Venn Diagrams here ... or is it something else? Country? Fiddle? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 [quote name='Veridicus' post='1817353' date='Mar 26 2009, 06:27 PM']Sometimes I'm afraid I'm gonna look up ecumenism in the dictionary and its gonna say "the diluting of belief and liturgical practice coupled with space age architecture and trendy music."[/quote] [quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1817354' date='Mar 26 2009, 06:31 PM']If anyone does have some examples of it, I'd be really interested. I have heard "folk" in the context of "so and so plays in the folk group at church" ... but I am at a loss as to what it actually is. Is it specifically guitar music, or the more general category of "praise and worship"? I am thinking in terms of Venn Diagrams here ... or is it something else? Country? Fiddle? What?[/quote] did you seriously just mention Venn diagrams? i thought Masses with folk music were like some holdover from the 1970s - do they really still exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Lately I tune out most music at mass. (It's getting bad.) It's still mass with or without. (Always good.) *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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