Catholic Folk Masses

[goldbug16]

[quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1817354' date='Mar 26 2009, 08:31 PM']If anyone does have some examples of it, I'd be really interested.

I have heard "folk" in the context of "so and so plays in the folk group at church" ... but I am at a loss as to what it actually is.

Is it specifically guitar music, or the more general category of "praise and worship"? I am thinking in terms of Venn Diagrams here ... or is it something else? Country? Fiddle? What?[/quote]

It's basically music from the 70's-90's that is full of lame tunes, idiotic lyrics, and oftentimes heresy.

Sorry for that.

I guess I just can't understand the obsession with We Are Companions On Our Journey (I'm not sure that's exactly the title) compared to Crown Him With Many Crowns...

[cmotherofpirl]

I heard one today done by a guest organist that qualifies as P & W : We Remember ? I thought the lyrics were terrible.

[Noel's angel]

It's really weird hearing folky hymns with organ accompaniment. I heard a choir once in Ballymena doing it. Just wrong.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1817950' date='Mar 27 2009, 04:28 PM']I heard one today done by a guest organist that qualifies as P & W : We Remember ? I thought the lyrics were terrible.[/quote]
"We remember how you loved us
to your death
and still we celebrate
for you are with us here"

Is it that one?

(That's one of the most respectful ones my choir will do......... )

Edited March 27, 2009 by Nihil Obstat

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1817978' date='Mar 27 2009, 06:59 PM']"We remember how you loved us
to your death
and still we celebrate
for you are with us here"

Is it that one?

(That's one of the most respectful ones my choir will do......... )[/quote]

This is the part that bothers me :
Now we recreate you love,
We bring the bread and wine to share a meal;
Sign of grace and mercy, the Presence of the Lord.

We aren't recreating anything, we are receiving the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. The verse is way too ambigious and open to more than one interpretation, which is the problem of way too many current hymns. Hymns should teach as well as praise. I do like all the possible harmonies.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1822696' date='Apr 2 2009, 12:01 PM']This is the part that bothers me :
Now we recreate you love,
We bring the bread and wine to share a meal;
Sign of grace and mercy, the Presence of the Lord.

We aren't recreating anything, we are receiving the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. The verse is way too ambigious and open to more than one interpretation, which is the problem of way too many current hymns. Hymns should teach as well as praise. I do like all the possible harmonies. [/quote]
I agree; that's not a good line.

I've been looking at the 'hymns' we're using lately. Generally they're just shallow and asinine, and I usually don't notice serious errors in them.

They all seem to be written by the same three or four people.

[Resurrexi]

I don't think the music of the Mass should be looked at in terms of hymns. The true music of the Roman liturgy consists of the Ordinary chants and the Proper chants.

[jeffpugh]

Yeah. Really. Even the ordinary form has an introit, tract and communion, and of those three, the tract is done flippantly before the gospel. Introit scripture is abandoned, as well as the communion. Therein lies some beautiful scripture. Anglican use graduals for all. Check some of that out... it's plain chant (like gregorian, but "plain", as stated... so "easier" if that is an "obstacle"). Nice translations too.

[philothea]

The mass I most often get to go to is very... folksy, yes.

It doesn't irritate me all that much, though I do wince on occasion. I don't know if I'm tolerant or apathetic -- if my lack of reaction is good or bad. I'm just happy to be able to be there.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='philothea' post='1824281' date='Apr 4 2009, 01:47 AM']

The mass I most often get to go to is very... folksy, yes.

It doesn't irritate me all that much, though I do wince on occasion. I don't know if I'm tolerant or apathetic -- if my lack of reaction is good or bad. I'm just happy to be able to be there. [/quote]
I try to be apathetic these days in terms of what my own parish does.

Otherwise I'll probably end up with high blood pressure before 20.

[Moosey]

[quote name='philothea' post='1824281' date='Apr 4 2009, 03:47 AM']

The mass I most often get to go to is very... folksy, yes.

It doesn't irritate me all that much, though I do wince on occasion. I don't know if I'm tolerant or apathetic -- if my lack of reaction is good or bad. I'm just happy to be able to be there. [/quote]
Whenever I have to attend a folksy Mass I usually let it get to me too much even though I can't do anything about it. It's kinda in my blood to complain about things like that. There's nothing wrong with you because you don't complain. I admire you for being able to worship in that environment. I'm spoiled and I can't stand anything other than the Latin Mass. I still consider the Novus Ordo valid, I just prefer not to go.

[Excelsior1027]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1823248' date='Apr 3 2009, 02:02 AM']I don't think the music of the Mass should be looked at in terms of hymns. The true music of the Roman liturgy consists of the Ordinary chants and the Proper chants.[/quote]
I was trying to explain that to a friend of mine the other day, but she just didn't get it.

Edited April 8, 2009 by Excelsior1027

[saintwannabe 777]

[quote name='InHisLove726' post='1814214' date='Mar 22 2009, 07:57 PM']Does anyone feel as uncomfortable about Folk Masses as I do? I absolutely despise the songs that are song. One night, I had to go to one since I was unable to go in the morning and one of the choir members sang "Healing River." I felt like I was in a Protestant church! The choir members participate more in the Mass than the priest does, and I don't like that. Am I being factitious?? The offering of the Mass is always enjoyable, but I wish the Folk music and group would just be done away with. [/quote]

What's a folk mass?

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1817160' date='Mar 26 2009, 02:53 PM']What exactly defines a 'folk mass'?
I'm trying to follow the thread, but I think I missed a definition.[/quote]

[quote name='InHisLove726' post='1817179' date='Mar 26 2009, 03:26 PM']I said "folk Mass" but I really should have said "Catholic Mass with folk music."[/quote]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1817347' date='Mar 26 2009, 07:11 PM']yeah, that's what I think it means: a mass with folk music. I personally don't have any examples I could think of off hand of what music would be used at such a mass.[/quote]

[saintwannabe 777]

what do you mean by folk music. Like they'll know we are Christians... How is that bad?